The rules could have been easily changed and probably should have as it
is an advantage.
W0MU
On 2/23/2016 8:41 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
Kelly, I accept it, for the reasons you stated. Sure feels like a hollow win
to me though. Maybe people will think about as they sit on 7120 to open the
contest.
73
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Taylor [mailto:ve4xt@mymts.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:27 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Open Letter to VE Contesters
HI Ed,
So can I put you in touch with a real estate agent? ;=)
I’ve never asked for sympathy from W1s about our lot in most contests, but the response to
suggestions about the lack of propagation in VE4 is usually “shut up and move.” (Not
quite so harshly stated, but the overall sentiment is the same.)
I can’t disagree with that. It’s nobody’s fault but mine I still live here, but
I accept my lot.
But perhaps just like we have to accept our lot in almost every contest but SS, maybe
you could accept American dominance (relative to VEs) in contests such as ARRL DX CW,
WW and WPX and accept that ARRL DX SSB might favour VEs…
73, kelly, ve4xt
On Feb 23, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
Kelly, I agree with you that, like VEs out your way are not
challenging the East Coast of NA regardless of sub band advantage in
this contest. However, there are many more stations than VY2ZM and
VY2TT that take well advantage of this rule. VE3EJ is for sure
another to add to the list as is VO1MP, VA3DX. There could be others.
Its simply a request to state that which we all know. It's not a fair
practice to have your own spectrum and compete as if all is the same.
Its one thing to discuss competition within regions like NA or Europe,
but in this case, there is no US winner. There is only a VE/US winner.
I wish I could see a way to change the rules to make US and Canada
separate categories but it doesn't really make sense given the contest
structure.
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: ve4xt@mymts.net [mailto:ve4xt@mymts.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 9:00 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Open Letter to VE Contesters
A curious letter given the two stations most likely to benefit from
our lack of sub-bands... are owned by Americans.
The truth is, Ed, stations between Sault St. Marie and Penticton are
highly unlikely to win much of anything anyway. We just don't have the
propagation.
Stations in VE4 and VE5 could break every rule in the book (save for
undeclared remote transmitting and receiving sites) and still pale in
comparison with stations on any of NA's coasts. A 20-kw amplifier
would be of little benefit considering we can usually only hear the
top layer anyway and get band openings as much as two or sometimes three hours
after you.
The ultimate place to contest from in Canada is probably VY2. You
might have a case to make with those guys.
Not that we're complaining, mind you. But just like a K1 might say "If
you like our propagational advantage so much, move here!" I'd just say
for the record, Ed, you would be welcomed with open arms as a new Canadian.
Now, if we could trade our freedom for your propagation, I'd probably
make that deal.
73, kelly, ve4xt,
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 23, 2016, at 6:23 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
With the upcoming ARRL SSB contest, why not see if you can actually
beat us this year by voluntarily abiding by the US Phone Sub bands.
Its really kind of silly to think you have won something (other than
the other similarly minded VEs) to sit on 21195 or 14145 and 7120 and
CQ all day undisturbed while the rest of us fight it out above you.
Don't
you think?
I personally think that this should become a rule change for this contest.
But getting the ARRL to change the rule is not going to be easy. And
a survey is kind of a joke since I would expect that virtually every
US responder would agree and last I checked, the ratio of US to VE is
about 10:1.
Nothing being done wrong by continuing practice.the rules do not
speak on this issue. But it would feel so much better to win and
know you did it this way.
73
Ed N1UR
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