ARRL RTTY roundup has allowed digital modes for years now. Last year
they specifically allowed FT8. I don't see it being an issue. There
will still be a lot of manual intervention. You can't just fire up the
software and walk away.
Ria
N2RJ
On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 17:18, Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com> wrote:
>
> Tor. With FT4 now "contest capable" and FT8 already being sprinkled into the
> mix in FD and starting to take over the VHF/UHF contests, I am fearful that
> the acceptance is inevitable for the HF RTTY contests. I sure hope that
> isn’t the case but instead new FT4 contests emerge - let the robowars begin.
> And more power to all so inclined. I will pass but that is no disparagement
> to others that find it exciting.
>
> Ed N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of RT
> Clay
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:55 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] FT4 - Robotic Contesting
>
> >
> > Contesters ignore this disturbing trend and acceptance by sponsors at their
> > peril in my opinion.
> >
> What acceptance by sponsors? FT8 (or FT4) are not allowed in the ARRL or CQ
> RTTY contest single op categories.
> Tor N4OGW
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 8:25:14 AM CDT, Barry <w2up@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> I agree.
>
> In the last decade, I was an active digital contester and still hold a CQWW
> RTTY record (SOLP USA) set in 2002. I don't understand this sit there and
> click with no operator intervention mentality. Seems the only thing missing
> from this new FT4 software is the ability to enter your cell number, so the
> software can text you when the contest is over, and you can see how you did
> :-)
>
> Barry W2UP
>
> On 4/30/2019 4:59 AM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> > I am not sure how many people are aware of a new FT mode that was just
> > released. The mode called FT-4 has a few new features.
> >
> > The first is that its quicker by trading S/N capture algorithm for speed of
> > contacts. I read somewhere there is a 10db price to pay on the weak signal
> > capability.
> >
> > The second is it allows for more flexibility of contest exchanges.
> >
> > The third is disturbing. It allows for an automated feature that decides
> > the best contact available of the decoded possibilities (like a new mult)
> > and just goes for it automatically. The operator doesn't click on the
> > call, the operator clicks on the desire to find the best call.
> >
> > Because of the simplistic possibility of having a screen macro just keep
> > clicking on "find the best call", a feeble attempt to thwart full robotic
> > capability is made to swap the button on the screen with the cancel button.
> > Although this is NOT done after every QSO but only after "a few QSOs"
> > whatever that means. So even with this attempt, the acceptance of a few
> > automated and optimized QSOs has been declared acceptable. Just not 100%
> > fully robotic. Although whether this attempt to move buttons actually
> > prevents a macro from engaging the button is not assured to me. People
> > more knowledgably on such things can comment.
> >
> > I hope that the Contest community is watching this slippery slope slide.
> > Fire up FT4, decode the signals in the pass band, Automatically find a few
> > and work them without the operator even knowing which ones are being
> > worked. Seriously, what is the point? If a robot war contest is desired,
> > I am all for it and think it's a cool concept. But we don't put 6 year
> > olds in the ring to fight with robots in robowars and we shouldn't be
> > mixing the two in contesting either.
> >
> > Contesters ignore this disturbing trend and acceptance by sponsors at their
> > peril in my opinion.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Ed N1UR
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