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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

To: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 06:02:00 -0500
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A goodly number of users out there have skimmer spots turned off and
only rely on "human" spots.

73 Rich NN3W

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:22 PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have no idea how any manual internet spots are of any value whatsoever
> on CW.  If you call CQ you are instantly spotted by every skimmer in the
> world who detects your signal.  You are essentially “self spotting” if you
> call CQ.
>
> How much perceived benefit is imagined for any number of internet spots,
> real or otherwise as compared to maybe 10,000 real spots created by the
> simple task of pressing F1 throughout a contest?
>
> Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>
> > On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's report of
> spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all seemingly traced to
> a single IP in Italy.  After the first time this happened, a month earlier
> (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the committee had it in hand, with reliable
> reps in Italy pursuing the answer.  Since then, nothing.
> >
> > How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of thing with
> impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce the appropriate rule
> against self-spotting.
> >
> > To refresh memories:
> >
> > ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
> >
> > 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
> > 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
> > Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
> > Includes
> > 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
> > 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
> >
> > These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP
> 217.61.58.23.
> > These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster nodes.  There
> could
> > be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that doesn't
> include
> > IP addresses.
> >
> > https://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/SelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip
> > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/27-Nov-2021.zip
> > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/28-Nov-2021.zip
> >
> > Lee VE7CC"
> >
> > --
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> > web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
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