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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

To: Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:37:20 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I agree, but doubt that a properly secure spotting network will happen in my lifetime. As I implied, I'm hoping that the culprit will find it necessary to boast about his exploits, and someone will turn him in.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/4/2021 1:28 PM, Randy Thompson wrote:
This problem cannot be “solved” without adding some level of authentication to 
the spotting system. Right now anyone can spot anything using any call.

The WW Committee lacks subpoena power so it may not be able to ever identify 
the rogue spotter.

K5ZD

On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR<pete.n4zr@gmail.com>  wrote:

Sorry, Tim, but I think a lot of us have a legitimate interest in seeing this 
solved, and being patted on the hand and told to sit down and be quiet doesn't go over 
well with me.  I got a status report from K1AR, which is all I was looking for.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server 
at<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbeta.reversebeacon.net%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=7lCLI4Og98QlyiE%2BVraPpQsePSwljzRiI6P75%2BYnRSw%3D&amp;reserved=0>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/3/2021 9:18 PM, Tim Duffy wrote:
Hello Pete

What makes you think that nothing is being done? Do not worry.

Be assured that the CQWW committee has this and many other issues well in hand

73
Tim K3LR

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+k3lr=k3lr.com@contesting.com] On 
Behalf Of Pete Smith N4ZR
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:13 AM
To: reflector cq-contest
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's report of
spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all seemingly traced
to a single IP in Italy.  After the first time this happened, a month
earlier (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the committee had it in hand,
with reliable reps in Italy pursuing the answer.  Since then, nothing.

How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of thing with
impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce the appropriate
rule against self-spotting.

To refresh memories:

">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.

27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
   Includes
203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
385 self spots 28 Nov 2021

These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP 217.61.58.23.
These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster nodes.  There could
be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that doesn't include
IP addresses.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2FSelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=xoqcCu7sSackHgyh1syNhol3nhuS%2BNrP3LMGtxCeDbo%3D&amp;reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F27-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=99VqvStINvHlxk2M3puppARkDzzB3ZKMZvZZff6XdlM%3D&amp;reserved=0
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F28-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=MiiuQfN1wUu2nTTJxZYiIeta2OYIhEdx%2FWLJ9LcjbPU%3D&amp;reserved=0

Lee VE7CC"

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