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RE: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:49:34 -0500
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Also the 1st link from rg to ap and the 2nd link from ap to ap - are
completely isolated (RF wise), I also have used the ping test to verify
each segment is running 3Mbps/3Mbps



> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:50 AM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
> 
> Whooo - glad to here that, I was getting a bit worried
> Bryan
> 
> Dan Metcalf wrote:
> 
> >Bryan,
> >
> >My network goes likes this
> >
> >
> ><rg1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> <ap1000> -- with customers connected
through
> >some of the ap's
> >
> >we are able to pull a full T1 up and down at the same time across the
> >links
> >
> >
> >its all routed though
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>
> >>
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> >
> >
> >>On Behalf Of Bryan
> >>Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:16 AM
> >>To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
> >>
> >>It stripped the image...
> >>See text based attempt below - you may have to widen your window to
> >>
> >>
> >see
> >
> >
> >>properly
> >>Bryan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Interesting - I was just getting ready to purchase KN-200s to
> >>>
> >>>
> >resolve
> >
> >
> >>>that very same issue, I was using Orinoco AP2000s and having same
> >>>problem.  I will hold hold off pending a resultion to your problem
-
> >>>no sense spending the money for new equipment with same problem.
> >>>
> >>>I proved to Proxim that it wasn't a network congestion problem or a
> >>>problem with the internet speed tests by:
> >>>1. Setting up an FTP server internal on my network.
> >>>2. Shutting off all customers - this wasn't much of an issue as I
> >>>
> >>>
> >was
> >
> >
> >>>testing network and only had people that were willing to use for
> >>>
> >>>
> >free,
> >
> >
> >>>under the understanding that it could go down at any time.
> >>>3. Repeatedly DLing & ULing a 120meg file from server to laptop &
> >>>back, at vatious points in the network while watching with DU
Meter.
> >>>
> >>>As for your Ping test - it would seem to me that if you are Rxing
> >>>
> >>>
> >~3.4
> >
> >
> >>>mbps ROUND TRIP - since thisis  half duplex the one way should be
2x
> >>>that or 6.8mbps...?????
> >>>
> >>>Personnally - I don't give rat's @ss about any latency tests or any
> >>>other built in tests - Those can be manipulated by the writer of
the
> >>>software to show favorable results.  The only thing a customer, and
> >>>therefore myself, cares about is that if they are being sold a
> >>>
> >>>
> >service
> >
> >
> >>>at particular speed, they get it.  The only way to prove that is to
> >>>have an internal network speed test of some sort.
> >>>
> >>>Here what they told me would support upto 1mbps thruput to
customers
> >>>at any point in the network (using TC for backhaul on one radio
-the
> >>>other radio to serve customers)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>NOC<>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4200
> >>
> >>|                                   |
> >>                                                 KN200w/SG4400
> >>KN200w/SG4400
> >>                                                             |
> >>                           |
> >>                                                 KN200w/SG4400
> >>      Future
> >>                                                             |
> >>                                                  KN200w/SG4200
> >>Upto 64 backhaul links off any one radio - I was told
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anyone using a network in similiar config, i.e. 4 wireless
> >>>
> >>>
> >backhauls,
> >
> >
> >>>that can verify this?
> >>>
> >>>Bryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>jna wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello Group,
> >>>>
> >>>>I am trying to diagnose bad transfer rates in my network and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >started at
> >
> >
> >>>>square 1. We have an RG1000 SAT shooting a 3MB/S feed to a central
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>relay
> >>
> >>
> >>>>tower only about 1 mile from the datacenter (-47db Signal). The
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >central
> >
> >
> >>>>relay is running on kn-200 BASE. When I connect to the relay point
> >>>>via my
> >>>>laptop I am lucky to see 800K to 1.2MB/S over the net transfers.
> >>>>Using the
> >>>>ping fill utility I measure that the transfer rates from the
RG1000
> >>>>SAT to
> >>>>the KN-200 is an average of 3.2 with a max of 3.6MB/S over the
air.
> >>>>According to the ping fill this should should be sufficent to cary
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >my
> >
> >
> >>>>3MB/S
> >>>>feed  but I am not seeing it at the central relay not even half of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >it.
> >
> >
> >>>>I asked Karlnet support about it and they said that is normal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >because
> >
> >
> >>>>the
> >>>>ping fill shows round trip so my 3.2 to 3.6MB/S transfer to the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >relay
> >
> >
> >>>>point
> >>>>should on support 1.6 to 1.8MB/S one way (Even though there not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >even
> >
> >
> >>>>seeing
> >>>>that much). I questioned this and never received a reply back. On
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >our
> >
> >
> >>>>main
> >>>>tower which is still on a T1 I have my home connection to the main
> >>>>tower via
> >>>>ping fill shows my average transfer time of 1,271,009 and max of
> >>>>1,484,160.
> >>>>Now if we took the half duplex analogy to mean this result is
round
> >>>>trip and
> >>>>my connection according to ping fill and karlnet should only
handle
> >>>>630K -
> >>>>742K either up or down, correct? But if this is true then why is
it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>>>can
> >>>>register on the bandwidth testing sites using this same connection
> >>>>double
> >>>>that actually about what the ping fill says? My average over the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >net
> >
> >
> >>>>connection rating is 1.2MB/S ... Does anyone else have any
> >>>>information on
> >>>>the actuall ping fill and if it even works right at all? If the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >above
> >
> >
> >>is
> >>
> >>
> >>>>true then my 3.2-3.6MB/S link to the relay is accurate should get
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >me my
> >
> >
> >>>>3MB/S feed there with no problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>I cant get answers from karlnet support, does anyone have a clue
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >here?
> >
> >
> >>>>Is anyone else using Karlnet for backhauling locations? Are you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >able to
> >
> >
> >>>>backhaul more than a T1?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank You,
> >>>>John
> >>>>
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