Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

[Bryan <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>]

Well since I don't have this equipment in place I'm not familiar with 
it's options - I frouting is a better way to go I will implement that 
option. 

On the AP2Ks I was using, there was nothing but the ability to talk to 
another AP via it's WDS, no routing option so I couldn't do anything 
with that.

If the SG4200/4400 software allows me to route - I'll use it.

bryan

Bob Hrbek wrote:

> I think you'll regret not routing.
>
> I think once you get to about 25 users, routing will have some serious
> benefits.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan" <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
>
>
>  
>
> > Yes - using one of the radios solely for BackHaul the other solely for
> > customers.
> > A little clarification on 64 BH links - such as the 2nd Kn200 has 2 BH
> > links - I was told that it could support upto 64...
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > Bob Hrbek wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > all bridged?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Bryan" <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>
> > > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > It stripped the image...
> > > > See text based attempt below - you may have to widen your window to see
> > > > properly
> > > > Bryan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > Interesting - I was just getting ready to purchase KN-200s to resolve
> > > > > that very same issue, I was using Orinoco AP2000s and having same
> > > > > problem.  I will hold hold off pending a resultion to your problem -
> > > > > no sense spending the money for new equipment with same problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > I proved to Proxim that it wasn't a network congestion problem or a
> > > > > problem with the internet speed tests by:
> > > > > 1. Setting up an FTP server internal on my network.
> > > > > 2. Shutting off all customers - this wasn't much of an issue as I was
> > > > > testing network and only had people that were willing to use for free,
> > > > > under the understanding that it could go down at any time.
> > > > > 3. Repeatedly DLing & ULing a 120meg file from server to laptop &
> > > > > back, at vatious points in the network while watching with DU Meter.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for your Ping test - it would seem to me that if you are Rxing ~3.4
> > > > > mbps ROUND TRIP - since thisis  half duplex the one way should be 2x
> > > > > that or 6.8mbps...?????
> > > > >
> > > > > Personnally - I don't give rat's @ss about any latency tests or any
> > > > > other built in tests - Those can be manipulated by the writer of the
> > > > > software to show favorable results.  The only thing a customer, and
> > > > > therefore myself, cares about is that if they are being sold a service
> > > > > at particular speed, they get it.  The only way to prove that is to
> > > > > have an internal network speed test of some sort.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here what they told me would support upto 1mbps thruput to customers
> > > > > at any point in the network (using TC for backhaul on one radio -the
> > > > > other radio to serve customers)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > NOC<>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4200
> > > >
> > > > |                                   |
> > > >                                                KN200w/SG4400
> > > > KN200w/SG4400
> > > >                                                            |
> > > >                          |
> > > >                                                KN200w/SG4400
> > > >     Future
> > > >                                                            |
> > > >                                                 KN200w/SG4200
> > > > Upto 64 backhaul links off any one radio - I was told
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone using a network in similiar config, i.e. 4 wireless backhauls,
> > > > > that can verify this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > jna wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >          
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Group,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am trying to diagnose bad transfer rates in my network and started
> > > > > >            
> at
>  
>
> > > > > > square 1. We have an RG1000 SAT shooting a 3MB/S feed to a central
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >            
> > > relay
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > > > tower only about 1 mile from the datacenter (-47db Signal). The
> > > > > >            
> central
>  
>
> > > > > > relay is running on kn-200 BASE. When I connect to the relay point
> > > > > > via my
> > > > > > laptop I am lucky to see 800K to 1.2MB/S over the net transfers.
> > > > > > Using the
> > > > > > ping fill utility I measure that the transfer rates from the RG1000
> > > > > > SAT to
> > > > > > the KN-200 is an average of 3.2 with a max of 3.6MB/S over the air.
> > > > > > According to the ping fill this should should be sufficent to cary my
> > > > > > 3MB/S
> > > > > > feed  but I am not seeing it at the central relay not even half of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I asked Karlnet support about it and they said that is normal because
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > ping fill shows round trip so my 3.2 to 3.6MB/S transfer to the relay
> > > > > > point
> > > > > > should on support 1.6 to 1.8MB/S one way (Even though there not even
> > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > that much). I questioned this and never received a reply back. On our
> > > > > > main
> > > > > > tower which is still on a T1 I have my home connection to the main
> > > > > > tower via
> > > > > > ping fill shows my average transfer time of 1,271,009 and max of
> > > > > > 1,484,160.
> > > > > > Now if we took the half duplex analogy to mean this result is round
> > > > > > trip and
> > > > > > my connection according to ping fill and karlnet should only handle
> > > > > > 630K -
> > > > > > 742K either up or down, correct? But if this is true then why is it I
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > register on the bandwidth testing sites using this same connection
> > > > > > double
> > > > > > that actually about what the ping fill says? My average over the net
> > > > > > connection rating is 1.2MB/S ... Does anyone else have any
> > > > > > information on
> > > > > > the actuall ping fill and if it even works right at all? If the above
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >            
> > > is
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > > > true then my 3.2-3.6MB/S link to the relay is accurate should get me
> > > > > >            
> my
>  
>
> > > > > > 3MB/S feed there with no problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cant get answers from karlnet support, does anyone have a clue here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone else using Karlnet for backhauling locations? Are you able
> > > > > >            
> to
>  
>
> > > > > > backhaul more than a T1?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank You,
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
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