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Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates

To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:38:06 -0600
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
I think you'll regret not routing.

I think once you get to about 25 users, routing will have some serious
benefits.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan" <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates


> Yes - using one of the radios solely for BackHaul the other solely for
> customers.
> A little clarification on 64 BH links - such as the 2nd Kn200 has 2 BH
> links - I was told that it could support upto 64...
>
> Bryan
>
> Bob Hrbek wrote:
>
> >all bridged?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Bryan" <blsutton@airnetwifi.net>
> >To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Transfer Rates
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>It stripped the image...
> >>See text based attempt below - you may have to widen your window to see
> >>properly
> >>Bryan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Interesting - I was just getting ready to purchase KN-200s to resolve
> >>>that very same issue, I was using Orinoco AP2000s and having same
> >>>problem.  I will hold hold off pending a resultion to your problem -
> >>>no sense spending the money for new equipment with same problem.
> >>>
> >>>I proved to Proxim that it wasn't a network congestion problem or a
> >>>problem with the internet speed tests by:
> >>>1. Setting up an FTP server internal on my network.
> >>>2. Shutting off all customers - this wasn't much of an issue as I was
> >>>testing network and only had people that were willing to use for free,
> >>>under the understanding that it could go down at any time.
> >>>3. Repeatedly DLing & ULing a 120meg file from server to laptop &
> >>>back, at vatious points in the network while watching with DU Meter.
> >>>
> >>>As for your Ping test - it would seem to me that if you are Rxing ~3.4
> >>>mbps ROUND TRIP - since thisis  half duplex the one way should be 2x
> >>>that or 6.8mbps...?????
> >>>
> >>>Personnally - I don't give rat's @ss about any latency tests or any
> >>>other built in tests - Those can be manipulated by the writer of the
> >>>software to show favorable results.  The only thing a customer, and
> >>>therefore myself, cares about is that if they are being sold a service
> >>>at particular speed, they get it.  The only way to prove that is to
> >>>have an internal network speed test of some sort.
> >>>
> >>>Here what they told me would support upto 1mbps thruput to customers
> >>>at any point in the network (using TC for backhaul on one radio -the
> >>>other radio to serve customers)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>NOC<>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4400<=>KN200w/SG4200
> >>
> >>|                                   |
> >>                                                 KN200w/SG4400
> >>KN200w/SG4400
> >>                                                             |
> >>                           |
> >>                                                 KN200w/SG4400
> >>      Future
> >>                                                             |
> >>                                                  KN200w/SG4200
> >>Upto 64 backhaul links off any one radio - I was told
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anyone using a network in similiar config, i.e. 4 wireless backhauls,
> >>>that can verify this?
> >>>
> >>>Bryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>jna wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello Group,
> >>>>
> >>>>I am trying to diagnose bad transfer rates in my network and started
at
> >>>>square 1. We have an RG1000 SAT shooting a 3MB/S feed to a central
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >relay
> >
> >
> >>>>tower only about 1 mile from the datacenter (-47db Signal). The
central
> >>>>relay is running on kn-200 BASE. When I connect to the relay point
> >>>>via my
> >>>>laptop I am lucky to see 800K to 1.2MB/S over the net transfers.
> >>>>Using the
> >>>>ping fill utility I measure that the transfer rates from the RG1000
> >>>>SAT to
> >>>>the KN-200 is an average of 3.2 with a max of 3.6MB/S over the air.
> >>>>According to the ping fill this should should be sufficent to cary my
> >>>>3MB/S
> >>>>feed  but I am not seeing it at the central relay not even half of it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I asked Karlnet support about it and they said that is normal because
> >>>>the
> >>>>ping fill shows round trip so my 3.2 to 3.6MB/S transfer to the relay
> >>>>point
> >>>>should on support 1.6 to 1.8MB/S one way (Even though there not even
> >>>>seeing
> >>>>that much). I questioned this and never received a reply back. On our
> >>>>main
> >>>>tower which is still on a T1 I have my home connection to the main
> >>>>tower via
> >>>>ping fill shows my average transfer time of 1,271,009 and max of
> >>>>1,484,160.
> >>>>Now if we took the half duplex analogy to mean this result is round
> >>>>trip and
> >>>>my connection according to ping fill and karlnet should only handle
> >>>>630K -
> >>>>742K either up or down, correct? But if this is true then why is it I
> >>>>can
> >>>>register on the bandwidth testing sites using this same connection
> >>>>double
> >>>>that actually about what the ping fill says? My average over the net
> >>>>connection rating is 1.2MB/S ... Does anyone else have any
> >>>>information on
> >>>>the actuall ping fill and if it even works right at all? If the above
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >is
> >
> >
> >>>>true then my 3.2-3.6MB/S link to the relay is accurate should get me
my
> >>>>3MB/S feed there with no problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>I cant get answers from karlnet support, does anyone have a clue here?
> >>>>
> >>>>Is anyone else using Karlnet for backhauling locations? Are you able
to
> >>>>backhaul more than a T1?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thank You,
> >>>>John
> >>>>
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