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RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next

To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
From: "Caleb Carroll" <karlnet@pathcom.ca>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:37:13 -0600
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Two things are really disturbing about this list...

1) All the Karlnet slamming going on (mostly valid complaints about operational 
bugs).
2) Karlnet & YDI's complete silence on the issues discussed.


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On 2004-07-20 at 4:21 PM Jayson A. Baker wrote:

>Our first 30 pack of SM's was around $400 each, now we pay $275 each.
>
>It's not Motorola, it's the industry.  Ever see how much a car cost 5 years
>ago?  See how much it costs today?  How about a brand new Dell computer.
>Again, it's not Moto, it's the industry and the market that controls the
>pricing.
>
>Our competition is the cable company, the telephone company, and some other
>little WISP's in town using 802.11b and KN.  We blow them away.
>
>Quite possibly the biggest reason we can compete with cable is that our
>network is 10x more reliable and we can offer an SLA and uptime guarantee.
>Canopy, when using the BAM software, is also burstable - I sell a customer
>384Kbps and when they get 4.2Mbps they shit.  (And then tell all their
>friends.)
>
>Regards,
>Jayson A. Baker
>Peak Internet Solutions
>A Fundamental Company
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
>On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:55 PM
>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
>I don't know Jason.  I certainly can side with you on a few of your posts
>but how is Motorola any different?   Ever see what MOT sells a cable modem
>for?  5 years ago I paid $350 for one.   I figured it would be cheaper than
>the $15/mo rental.   I think they are around $50-$75 now?
>
>How much is that SM?   and the AP?   Who is your competition, who is
>supplying them products and who has the deep pockets?
>
>
>-bob
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
>To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:47 PM
>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
>
>> That's awesome.  The equipment manufacturer is now our (not our, but
>WISP's)
>> competitor.
>>
>> Morons.  Had we not already disowned KN and YDI years prior, this would
>be
>> the icing on the cake for us.
>>
>> Think about it... a company with obviously deep pockets who you're paying
>> more money now to for products you used to but from KN is taking that
>money
>> you're paying them and they're using it to compete with you.
>>
>> It's like owning a local Wendy's, but buying all your product from
>> McDonald's.  Their profits go up, they get bigger, and you end up losing
>> out.
>>
>> If anyone else wants to switch to Canopy shoot me an e-mail and I'll
>answer
>> any questions you may have.  I can put you in contact with great leasing
>> companies for financing large purchases, and will offer you limited free
>> consulting to get you off the ground.
>>
>> I don't like it when companies do things like this - so I'll help to put
>> them out of business.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jayson A. Baker
>> Peak Internet Solutions
>> A Fundamental Company
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:44 PM
>> To: Karlnet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>>
>> Holy crap.  A mere $3M.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe Correia" <Joe@FallRiverOnline.com>
>> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:26 PM
>> Subject: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>>
>>
>> > Let me see if I get this right.
>> > Karlnet was bought out by YDI. Right?
>> > Then YDI got the ISP Richochet.
>> > http://www.ydi.com/company/pressreleases/pr-20040630.php
>> > Is it just me or is there a pattern starting to show it's ugly head
>here?
>> >
>> > --Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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