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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
From: "Charles Wu" <cwu@cwlab.net>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:26:02 -0500
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You're forgetting to add the extra $125 for the reflector dish...

-Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of Jayson A. Baker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:13 PM
To: 'Norm Young'; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next


Or 5.2, or 2.4...
w/ 5.7 - 15mi
w/ 2.4 - 30mi

Thus the reason we have 100's of these, and only 40 KN.

We buy 100 at a time, finance them over 2-3 years, then "rent" them to the
customer.  We charge $99 up front for install, then starting at $49.95/mo
and that includes the rental charge.

But this allows us to run a free install promo, sell 100 units, and REAP the
monthly recurring charges.  Mmm...

Regards,
Jayson A. Baker
Peak Internet Solutions
A Fundamental Company


-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:01 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next

Am I to understand that you are paying $275 for a CPE/ 5.8GHz?   What sort
of range?

Norm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next


> Our first 30 pack of SM's was around $400 each, now we pay $275 each.
>
> It's not Motorola, it's the industry.  Ever see how much a car cost 5
years
> ago?  See how much it costs today?  How about a brand new Dell 
> computer. Again, it's not Moto, it's the industry and the market that 
> controls the pricing.
>
> Our competition is the cable company, the telephone company, and some
other
> little WISP's in town using 802.11b and KN.  We blow them away.
>
> Quite possibly the biggest reason we can compete with cable is that 
> our network is 10x more reliable and we can offer an SLA and uptime 
> guarantee. Canopy, when using the BAM software, is also burstable - I 
> sell a customer 384Kbps and when they get 4.2Mbps they shit.  (And 
> then tell all their
> friends.)
>
> Regards,
> Jayson A. Baker
> Peak Internet Solutions
> A Fundamental Company
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com 
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
> I don't know Jason.  I certainly can side with you on a few of your posts
> but how is Motorola any different?   Ever see what MOT sells a cable modem
> for?  5 years ago I paid $350 for one.   I figured it would be cheaper
than
> the $15/mo rental.   I think they are around $50-$75 now?
>
> How much is that SM?   and the AP?   Who is your competition, who is
> supplying them products and who has the deep pockets?
>
>
> -bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
> To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
>
>
> > That's awesome.  The equipment manufacturer is now our (not our, but
> WISP's)
> > competitor.
> >
> > Morons.  Had we not already disowned KN and YDI years prior, this 
> > would
be
> > the icing on the cake for us.
> >
> > Think about it... a company with obviously deep pockets who you're
paying
> > more money now to for products you used to but from KN is taking 
> > that
> money
> > you're paying them and they're using it to compete with you.
> >
> > It's like owning a local Wendy's, but buying all your product from 
> > McDonald's.  Their profits go up, they get bigger, and you end up 
> > losing out.
> >
> > If anyone else wants to switch to Canopy shoot me an e-mail and I'll
> answer
> > any questions you may have.  I can put you in contact with great 
> > leasing companies for financing large purchases, and will offer you 
> > limited free consulting to get you off the ground.
> >
> > I don't like it when companies do things like this - so I'll help to 
> > put them out of business.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jayson A. Baker
> > Peak Internet Solutions
> > A Fundamental Company
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:44 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> > Holy crap.  A mere $3M.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Correia" <Joe@FallRiverOnline.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:26 PM
> > Subject: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> >
> > > Let me see if I get this right.
> > > Karlnet was bought out by YDI. Right?
> > > Then YDI got the ISP Richochet. 
> > > http://www.ydi.com/company/pressreleases/pr-20040630.php
> > > Is it just me or is there a pattern starting to show it's ugly 
> > > head
> here?
> > >
> > > --Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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