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RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:44:09 -0400
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
I was contacted off-list regarding that bug and expect a fix shortly....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On
> Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:37 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> 
> 
> Two things are really disturbing about this list...
> 
> 1) All the Karlnet slamming going on (mostly valid complaints about
> operational bugs).
> 2) Karlnet & YDI's complete silence on the issues discussed.
> 
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 2004-07-20 at 4:21 PM Jayson A. Baker wrote:
> 
> >Our first 30 pack of SM's was around $400 each, now we pay $275 each.
> >
> >It's not Motorola, it's the industry.  Ever see how much a car cost 5
years
> >ago?  See how much it costs today?  How about a brand new Dell
computer.
> >Again, it's not Moto, it's the industry and the market that controls
the
> >pricing.
> >
> >Our competition is the cable company, the telephone company, and some
other
> >little WISP's in town using 802.11b and KN.  We blow them away.
> >
> >Quite possibly the biggest reason we can compete with cable is that
our
> >network is 10x more reliable and we can offer an SLA and uptime
guarantee.
> >Canopy, when using the BAM software, is also burstable - I sell a
customer
> >384Kbps and when they get 4.2Mbps they shit.  (And then tell all
their
> >friends.)
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jayson A. Baker
> >Peak Internet Solutions
> >A Fundamental Company
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> >On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:55 PM
> >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> >I don't know Jason.  I certainly can side with you on a few of your
posts
> >but how is Motorola any different?   Ever see what MOT sells a cable
modem
> >for?  5 years ago I paid $350 for one.   I figured it would be
cheaper than
> >the $15/mo rental.   I think they are around $50-$75 now?
> >
> >How much is that SM?   and the AP?   Who is your competition, who is
> >supplying them products and who has the deep pockets?
> >
> >
> >-bob
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jayson A. Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
> >To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:47 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >
> >
> >> That's awesome.  The equipment manufacturer is now our (not our,
but
> >WISP's)
> >> competitor.
> >>
> >> Morons.  Had we not already disowned KN and YDI years prior, this
would
> >be
> >> the icing on the cake for us.
> >>
> >> Think about it... a company with obviously deep pockets who you're
paying
> >> more money now to for products you used to but from KN is taking
that
> >money
> >> you're paying them and they're using it to compete with you.
> >>
> >> It's like owning a local Wendy's, but buying all your product from
> >> McDonald's.  Their profits go up, they get bigger, and you end up
losing
> >> out.
> >>
> >> If anyone else wants to switch to Canopy shoot me an e-mail and
I'll
> >answer
> >> any questions you may have.  I can put you in contact with great
leasing
> >> companies for financing large purchases, and will offer you limited
free
> >> consulting to get you off the ground.
> >>
> >> I don't like it when companies do things like this - so I'll help
to put
> >> them out of business.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jayson A. Baker
> >> Peak Internet Solutions
> >> A Fundamental Company
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:44 PM
> >> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >>
> >> Holy crap.  A mere $3M.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joe Correia" <Joe@FallRiverOnline.com>
> >> To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:26 PM
> >> Subject: [Karlnet] YDI killing Karlnet & ISP's are next
> >>
> >>
> >> > Let me see if I get this right.
> >> > Karlnet was bought out by YDI. Right?
> >> > Then YDI got the ISP Richochet.
> >> > http://www.ydi.com/company/pressreleases/pr-20040630.php
> >> > Is it just me or is there a pattern starting to show it's ugly
head
> >here?
> >> >
> >> > --Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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