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Re: [RFI] Global Warming and Ecology

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Global Warming and Ecology
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:32:25 -0400
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Please, enough!  I've worn the paint off my delete key.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 11:21 AM 10/20/2007, someone wrote:
>To your point, I fear that you have failed to read the large body of
>SCIENTIFIC study that refutes the claim of human activity affecting the
>climate system of the earth.
>SCIENTIFIC study has demonstrated that the earth has undergone many warming
>and cooling cycles during its millions of years of history.  Unless you have
>knowledge of an experimental study that a vast body of scientists are
>unaware of proving the current warming cycle is the result of human
>activity, I fear you view of the world falls under proposition 2 of your
>More to the point, temperature records show the northern hemisphere was
>warmer in the 1930's than it is today and the southern hemisphere has
>changed little if any in the last 100 years.
>I am certain the earth would be better off if we would reduce emissions of
>all kinds, but as the population of the earth grows it's not likely to
>The more this issue becomes a political issue, the less likely there will a
>satisfactory solution.  History has shown that politicians adopt short term
>fixes in response to the loudest pressure.  This type of fix invariable turn
>out to be a disaster in the long run.  Just watch as the latest political
>fix to a natural resource problem, ethanol for petroleum plays out.  farmers
>all over the world, not being stupid, have jumped on the bandwagon and are
>growing corn and other crops capable of being converted into ethanol on any
>piece of unused or worn out land available.  The fact that they have
>increased the rate of destruction of jungle land in Brazil or are pouring
>vast amounts of petroleum based fertilizer on infertile land in the US and
>are using vast amounts of gasoline and diesel fuel to farm this land is
>conveniently ignored.
>All of this to produce a fuel that is more harmful to the atmosphere than is
>gasoline.  The production of NOX is increased with ethanol.  NOX is more
>harmful than CO2
>Where's the ecology in that?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfi-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com]On
> > Behalf Of Jim Brown
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:27 AM
> > To: RFI Reflector
> > Subject: [RFI] Global Warming and Ecology
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:13:47 -0500, Mike Coslo wrote:
> >
> > >There is no UNDISPUTED evidence that global warming is the result
> > >of human activities.
> >
> > Those doing the disputing don't have science on their side. I see
> > those doing the disputing as coming from one or more of the
> > following places:
> >
> > May I remind those here of the scientific method -- study what has
> > already been proven and understood, set up experiments to prove
> > what is not yet known or proven. Most of us here have done that
> > for circuit theory, electronics, and radio, but not many of us
> > have done so in the discipline of the ecology of our planet.
> >
> > The fact that WE have not done so does not mean that others have
> > not done so.
> >
> > 1) "I haven't done the science to prove it, nor have I studied the
> > science that has been done, so it isn't real."
> >
> > 2) "It violates my political views of how the world should be
> > run."
> >
> > 3) "Science is a matter of opinion."
> >
> > If you get around the world much (to places where you see the
> > degradation of the environment), and if you read REAL newspapers,
> > and if you listen to REAL broadcast news, it is clear beyond any
> > reasonable doubt that massive damage has already been done to our
> > planet. The well documented receding of the polar ice caps are
> > only the most recent examples. You didn't hear about that? That's
> > YOUR fault, not a guy named Gore.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim Brown K9YC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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