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Re: [RFI] CFL bulbs - NO WAY

To: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>,"Hisashi T Fujinaka" <htodd@twofifty.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] CFL bulbs - NO WAY
From: "David C. Hallam" <dhallam@rapidsys.com>
Reply-to: dhallam@rapidsys.com
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:53:15 -0400
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Who said this statement came from an internet chat room.  It was a published
report from an independent research group.  I will have to search and find
the name of the group that published the report.

There is no UNDISPUTED evidence that global warming is the result of human
activities.  In spite of the chicken little attitude of large numbers of
people, there is still a group of experts who contend there is valid
evidence to support the contention that the contribution of human activity
to the current warming cycle is minimal and lost in the noise of the data.
One point is the number of hurricanes has not increased over the last 50
years but has in fact decreased from the number recorded from about 1900 to
1950.  This is not supposition but comes from the records.

> There is pretty much universal agreement all around the
> world that at least a significant part of global warming is
> caused by humans

There is no such universal agreement except among those who have something
to gain by supporting this contention.  Their attitude is "Don't confuse me
with facts, my mind is made up".

I just read a report from NOAA that warming is being counteracted by
particulate matter in the upper atmosphere.  The total heating energy
received from the sun has decreased to due reflection caused the this
particulate matter and if the trend line continues we may see a reversal of
warming to a cooling cycle.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rauch [mailto:w8ji@contesting.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:15 PM
> To: dhallam@rapidsys.com; Hisashi T Fujinaka
> Cc: RFI Reflector
> Subject: Re: [RFI] CFL bulbs - NO WAY
> > Ahh, but then why don't the Al Gore's of the world come
> > out and say "Right
> > now these hybrid cars emit more total pollution per unit
> > that do the
> > conventional gasoline automobiles.  However, some day
> > technological
> > improvements may change that."
> >
> > Another Inconvenient Truth
> Just because a person claims the total birth to grave
> emissions are higher in an internet chatroom doesn't mean it
> is factual.
> There is pretty much universal agreement all around the
> world that at least a significant part of global warming is
> caused by humans, but there is virtually nothing to be found
> showing the total impact of any vehicle from birth to grave.
> People always have a tendency to accept what they want to
> hear without questioning the validity of it. That's why we
> are in so much trouble. We are easily manipulated to support
> people we would never support if we looked objectively at
> their history or actions because we believe what we want to
> regardless of fact.
> CFL bulbs have a low reliability factor, but so do the light
> dimmers and everything else I buy from China. They have high
> power factor compared to the unity power factor of an
> incandescent lamp. They certainly cause more pollution in
> manufacture and disposal. The exact numbers vary widely, but
> in general they do save energy. They do NOT save money. They
> won't save the world.
> Most of our energy waste is in needlessly large houses and
> vehicles and our habits. Not in light bulbs. A 100kW vehicle
> engine can't be corrected for by reducing the peak electric
> light demand by 500 watts.
> 73 tom

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