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Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC...

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Subject: Re: [RFI] ARRL to FCC...
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:22:10 -0700
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I hate to bring this up, but arn't you worried about being sued if one
of those filters explodes?

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On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 14:29 -0600, Tom Thompson wrote:
> Don,
> Your advice is right on.  One of the growers that I built filters for 
> offered to introduce me to other growers if they were interfering with 
> my radio.
> Tom   W0IVJ
> On 7/24/2014 1:42 PM, Donald Chester wrote:
> >> We in the "legal grow" states thank you, and the ARRL for testing and
> >> reporting those offending lights! Here is an example as to why your
> >> tests will help...
> >>
> >> It is a real mess in my local area right now-- as soon as one grow
> >> operation gets quiet, another starts making RFI...
> >>
> >> Until the FCC bans the import of all RFI generating lights, and enforce
> >> that ban, our only real hope is what you and the ARRL are doing to get
> >> the items banned as far upstream as possible...
> >
> > Those of us in "illegal grow" states might actually be at a substantial 
> > advantage.
> >
> > I personally couldn't care less what kind of plants a neighbour is growing 
> > on his own property, especially for his own use; that's his business and 
> > I'm certainly not going to call the cops over what I "suspect" might be 
> > something illegal, unless he is making an obnoxious nuisance of himself or 
> > posing a clear threat to the safety of those who have to live around him.
> >
> > If his grow lights are spewing RFI all over the neighbourhood, he would 
> > likely want to be the first to know, and take immediate steps to correct 
> > the problem, since that's like having a flashing beacon on top of your 
> > house, and usually attracting attention is the last thing those guys want 
> > to do.
> >
> > If the offender appears approachable, a little explanation of the 
> > phenomenon and friendly reminder, presented in a non-threatening way, 
> > should be all it would take. Be sure to provide information on 
> > non-interfering alternatives if you know of anything. If the people appear 
> > non-approachable or you are fearful that they may be Mob types and you are 
> > afraid to let them know you are aware of their operation, try to 
> > communicate the facts anonymously. Maybe write up a short letter and drop 
> > it in their letterbox or mailbox, or send it by mail. I would include 
> > multiple copies that they could share with cohorts, with plenty of 
> > documentation. If word gets around within the "growing" community, you can 
> > be sure they will be more interested in cleaning up their RFI act than any 
> > ham who lives next door.
> >
> > These folks communicate with each other as does any other special interest 
> > group. If we could somehow instil factual information on their websites and 
> > speciality publications, demand for RFI-prone lights would disappear 
> > overnight, and "RF invisibility" would become a sought-after feature, 
> > especially if they thought law-enforcement people might be aware of this 
> > phenomenon. If the amateur community can instil a demand for clean grow 
> > lights, this would inevitably carry over to the legal use as well.
> >
> > Fight fire with fire; you and the offenders have a strong common interest 
> > in cleaning up the RFI. This will likely work much more quickly than 
> > complaining to the FCC, which should be a last resort, and which could 
> > possibly put you in greater danger than by trying to work with them and get 
> > them to willing co-operate.
> >
> > Let's take advantage of this window of opportunity.
> >
> > Don, k4kyv
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