At the beginning of July I had given him all the materials for the install.
More than a fair amount of time.
Brad, N8GLS
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 12:00 PM
To: n8gls@arrl.net; rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
Hi Brad,
How much time have you allowed for the neighbor to add the filters, prior to
your complaint?
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 11/22/19 8:44 AM, N8GLS wrote:
> Thanks Dave,
>
> Have kept my diplomacy intact throughout the entire process. I
> purchased all the chokes needed (at my cost) and gave them all to him
> with the repeated offer to install myself. Thus the reason for the
> FCC complaint as I see no other recourse. I did again last night
> reach out to the ARRL for any possible intervention while this is in the
> FCC's "inbox" for action.
>
> 73, Brad N8GLS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Cole
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:59 AM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
>
> Brad,
>
> It seems like your neighbor was being helpful at one point... If this
> is the case, protect that relationship at all costs... It is useful,
> and will get your RFI solved a LOT FASTER, which is the goal...
>
> From your description, it sounds like some sort of outside light was
> installed, and is without a doubt causing your RFI, be sure to keep
> notes on all of this in the event the relationship turns sour, and you
> do need the FCC.
>
> Sidestep all the photos, graphs, and charts, and just offer to replace
> the light at your cost.
>
> I know that by rights you could force the issue with them, and make
> them pay for replacement, but why? The goal is to get your RFI
> gone... I have done this with several neighbors, it works, the RFI
> goes away, and in most cases, the cost has been less than 50 bucks,
> and the time is around a week to solve...
>
> Again, you are in the driver seat here, but why make it hard by
> involving the FCC, solving it that way will take months and months.
> Replacing the light will take a weekend...
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 11/21/19 8:52 PM, N8GLS wrote:
>> Thanks Mike,
>>
>>
>>
>> The RFI started occurring on the Sunday I returned from Hamvention.
>> Just
> installed the new IC-9700 and the band scope was showing pulsating
> band wide noise. Also the s-meter on the 2m FM rig was fluctuating up
> to almost full scale even though no signal was present. Going outside
> I noticed the newly installed deck lights, called my neighbor, and
> sure enough he just finished Saturday installing them. I asked him to
> turn them off for a minute and the noise disappeared, turning them
> back on brought it back. I was able to get a spare light he had, took
> it in the shack and regardless of being powered off pure DC or low voltage AC
> it was emitting RFI like I never saw before.
> See my QRZ page for links to the videos (intentionally non-technical)
> for my neighbor, the Mfg and for the ARRL.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Brad, N8GLS
>>
>> Mentor, OH
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Michael Martin <mike@rfiservices.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:32 PM
>> To: n8gls@arrl.net
>> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Brad I'm sorry to hear about your issue too bad it's not uncommon!
>>
>> I don't remember seeing or hearing about how you determined that
>> there's
> lights were the issue!
>>
>> I'm not second-guessing you I'm just curious as to the method you
>> used to
> determine they were the cause of the problem.
>>
>> I'd also be interested in knowing where this is, the state & town.
>>
>> Best wishes to you
>>
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>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 7:12 PM, N8GLS <n8gls@arrl.net
>> <mailto:n8gls@arrl.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I filed an "informal" complaint with the FCC a month ago regarding
>> RFI emanating from a neighbor's installation of LED Deck Lights done
>> back in May 2019. I did receive one response that a ticket number
>> was assigned and have been regularly checking the status but no
>> further "action" yet. I realize this may be a fairly long process
>> and may not go anywhere but was curious if anybody here has ever
>> filed a complaint and if so how long it took before some indication
>> of status was received
> ??
>>
>>
>>
>> A little history: The interference affects almost the entire 2m band.
>> This neighbor was initially cooperative and once I found a solution
>> (a simple combination of Chokes) I bought and gave him all the chokes
>> needed for the entire deck as well as offering to install them myself
>> or at least help. A reply of "no help needed, I can install myself
>> no problem" gave me an indication of sincerity ..that was back in July.
>> These lights have turned on at dusk and off at about 1am every single
>> day since May. I politely called him again the beginning of Oct
>> reminding him the interference was still emanating from the lights
>> and I would still install if he didn't have the time. That call
>> ended with an agitated response of "its not my problem" and "I don't
>> believe by merely buying these lights in any way makes me responsible
>> for anything", followed by "If they were so bad they wouldn't be
>> sold". It was clear there was no intention of installing anything at
>> any time and further conversation about the situation would be
>> fruitless. Left with no other solution I filed the informal
>> complaint and included a summary of the issue, timeline of events and
>> links to a
> couple videos showing the interference being received as well as one
> solution to remedy it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Frustrating to say the least, and sadly, words like "cooperation",
>> "politeness", "neighborly" and "respect" don't seem to mean much
>> these
> days.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Brad, N8GLS
>>
>>
>>
>>
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