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Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing

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Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing
From: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 15:30:47 -0800
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Hi Brad,

See my article in the March 2019 isue of CQ on getting a feel for your RFI environment on the cheap using an SDR...

Then see:

https://www.nk7z.net/sdr-rfi-survey-p1/

for how to set up an SDRPlay SDR and HDSDR, as a tool to overview your entire RFI environment over a 24 hour period, and across wide swaths of spectrum.

Far better than a Spectrum Analyzer for this use.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 11/22/19 2:00 PM, N8GLS wrote:
Good point.  I hate to spend the money but think I may need a Spectrum 
Analyzer.  This is an RFI mess up here, these lights would be one of twenty 
interference issues.  I have two other sources of broadband noise needing to be 
found, all the others are harmonics scattered up and down the band(s).  The 
analyzer would be a help in sorting this all out as well as giving me some 
relevant and credible data.

Brad, N8GLS

From: Sean Waite <waisean@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:25 PM
To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Cc: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net>; n8gls@arrl.net; RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC Complaint Filing

We have a lot of police and public safety on frequencies in the 150MHz range 
around here - if you can hear it up a little above 2m it may be worth 
mentioning that on any FCC filing. Interference with police band is likely to 
get a little more attention than interference with an amateur station.

73,

Sean WA1TE

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:45 PM Joe <nss@mwt.net <mailto:nss@mwt.net> > wrote:

If this neighbor is honestly really not going to co-operate.

And you don't care if he remains neighborly, Try hitting him with this.

Nicely say I have been nice trying to work with you on this issue. The
fix is relatively inexpensive. But you don't seem to care.

So it leaves me no other option to get the FCC involved. And I will
start to make a LOG starting today showing your interference to a
Federally licensed station.

I hope your pretty lights are worth this much to you, and hand him what
the penalties are for causing this interference.

I found a summary, but probably find the actual real item to give to
him.  but...


The Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and the *FCC's* Rules
authorize a base *fine* of $7,000 for each day an entity causes
*interference* to *authorized stations*.Oct 17, 2019


Tell him this is 7 thousand dollars for each and every day you continue
to interfere with my federally licensed station.

1 week? Thats 49 Thousand dollars for each week. Are those lights that
important to you?

Joe WB9SBD
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On 11/22/2019 11:20 AM, KD7JYK DM09 wrote:
"Thus the reason for the FCC complaint as I see no other recourse."

Generally speaking, having worked with numerous agencies, at various
levels, for many years, I highly suggest a "Formal" complaint to
start.  You will get a written verification, with a case number that
will be followed up upon, will pop up within the system at regular
intervals, not be closed until you inform them to do so after complete
resolution, and may even be audited (this is a good thing, for you, if
there are problems within the agency).  I have done this many times,
with excellent results, it's how the system works.


"Informal" typically equates to, forgotten as soon as the phone is
hung up, or tossed in the round file, if even noted, the idea being,
if you aren't serious, they certainly won't be, which usually means,
little effort made, if any, will probably never be followed up on, or
thought of again, and not something that will be caught up in an
audits.  It's like, "Hey!  I got a problem! (Spend an hour describing
it, notes, photos, recordings, maybe tears in the eyes...)".  Response
from the almost always minimum wage, part time intern at the front
counter rarely concerned beyond when the next break, or paycheck is,
that picked up the phone on a slow day: "Huh.  Yeah.  OK."  I have
done this many times (the complaint part), never with any desired
result, it's how the system works.

"I did again last night reach out to the ARRL for any possible
intervention"

Again?  I thought the ARRL jumped on this stuff.

FCC.  Good, get the ball rolling, formally, then, while that is
churning away, try more "diplomacy" through other routes.  If that
works in a few weeks, or months, great, and you can tell the FCC it's
been resolved.  If not, you're days, weeks, or months ahead of the
game for a formal action.

Slowest, yet most affective method first to save time.  Good tactic!

Please keep us posted on ARRL response.

Kurt
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