Phil
We stray from "RTTY" here, but since there are apparently RTTY groups on
Facebook, I think the discussion is fair game.
That non-rescindable permission we gave to FaceBook lets them use ALL of our
information, including what they glean from other users (our contacts and
Facebook friends and their connections), plus whatever else is searchable about
us on the internet to build a pretty comprehensive profile from which well
targeted advertisement can be constructed. We have given them the right to use
and sell this targeted info in any way they want. Of course we do not give up
the "right" to use OUR OWN info, that's the deceptive part. Note that this
includes all photos, multimedia, and sound files we ever posted, and for any
purpose they want, including combining them with any other media files anyway
they choose and for whatever purpose they choose. Sound familiar?
That is why FaceBook is and will be such a successful business. There is no
conspiracy here, we willingly (if not fully knowingly) gave up our privacy for
free, for all time.
Did you think that those suspiciously "on target" ads that pop up in your
browser, and perhaps some those spam emails are random?
73
Kai, KE4PT
On 2/24/2014 11:57 AM, Phil Sussman wrote:
Kai,
It's amazing to me how some people are so deceived by Facebook
and never realize that:
1. The wording of their 'terms' is deceptive and offers a false
sense of security.
and
2. Beyond what they 'print' there is an 'actuality' of what they
actually do which may (or may not) comply with what they print.
Thanks for explaining this in a way that I actually overlooked, but
certainly is true !!
73 de Phil - N8PS
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Quoting Kai <k.siwiak@ieee.org>:
Folks,
"granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content." is the definition of
" "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be
destroyed..."
As a "test", see if you can "ungrant" your permission.
-73
Kai, KE4PT
On 2/23/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
I'm sorry but the following statement is blatantly wrong "I discovered every
bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be destroyed..."
Please read the Facebook Terns of Use - Statement of Rights and
Responsibilities. Specifically section 2 regarding your Intellectual
Property rights.
*"2. Sharing Your Content and Information*
You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can
control how it is shared through your privacy
<https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy> and application settings
<https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>."
Within Section 2 are five statements that provide additional information,
including granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content. This
temporary license ends when you delete your content. They "own" nothing.
They have permission from you to "use". Subsection 2 also describes the
purging details and that backup copies within their system will eventually
purge and are not available to others.
Don't make stuff up and try to pass it off as "authentic"!
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 2/23/2014 8:19 PM, Phil Sussman wrote:
Regrettably I agree with John. I say regrettably because I
have unfortunately learned the 'price' of dealing with
Facebook. They reap and harvest EVERYTHING and I mean
EVERYTHING. Talk about 'big-brother', Facebook puts that
analogy to shame. I discovered every bit of info they glean
is theirs -- never to be destroyed -- just surrendered to the
highest bidder -- or rather EVERY bidder.
Caution: Woe to any college student on Facebook seeking a job.
Boxers or briefs -- they know -- and much much more.
73 de Phil - N8PS
PS. I was cloned there by a douple-ganger with the same name
or using mine.
Quoting John Becker <w0jab@big-river.net>:
On 2/23/2014 3:57 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
Facebook, on the other hand, is equivalent to a 72" HDTV with color,
surround sound, video, and instant connections to your friends and
family. YOU control who gets to "see your stuff", not some invisible
reflector moderator.
If you own a business the insurance company may ask if you use facebook.
Or at
least my wife's did and said they would not cover. Had to do with facebook's
habit or trying to read as much as they can get from your system (computer)
Was more then enough for me not to use it. Besides being on a satellite
internet
system I have got to watch the daily bandwidth usage.
Can you just guess the outcome if all the her customer credit card
information got out.
That would be lawsuit never ending. You use it if you like, not me.
John, W0JAB
Louisiana, Missouri
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