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Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:43:55 -0600
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Agreed.

After the misinformation being portrayed as the truth from the ARRL in regard to RM-11708, I am not sure if I would depend on the information being transmitted in the event of a national issue.


Mike W0MU

On 6/4/2014 2:05 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I have to wonder about the wisdom of on the air bulletin and code
practice in this day and age.  W1AW probably has $100,000 or more
tied up in capital equipment (transceivers, computers, amplifiers,
antennas, etc.) plus maintenance costs, the cost of professional
operator(s), operating costs, etc. that probably run that much or
more on an annual basis.

All the on the air bulletins and code practice could be replaced by
a few lines of code in some smartphone/tablet apps ... one to get
bulletins and another one for streaming code practice on demand. It
seems the financial and personnel resources could be much better
allocated to other priorities - like protecting traditional narrow
band amateur modes and supporting HF activities DX/contesting/the
traditional awards programs.  And at the same time, the information,
education and outreach mandates of the League would be in areas where
younger, tech savvy people just might stumble on it!

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-06-04 11:00 AM, joeduerbusch wrote:
Hi Mike, I do agree with Ed K0KL on this. I have been copying the W1AW
bulletins for 40 years.  I still do, mostly on RTTY but sometimes on CW.
I have used the scheduled bulletins on RTTY to check out various RTTY
Equipment. I even used W1AW CW to calibrate my Heathkit HW-16 when I was a
Novice.
Just because it broke a QSO with you, it doesn't mean it has no value.
As far as setting up on 14313, you can do that. K1MAN did the same thing
for years on 14275.  Just be ready to be at your station 24/7.

So when W1AW comes on, either QSY or just copy it.

Joe K0BX



On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 5:01 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

Does anyone even copy these bulletins anymore.  There is no way to find
out.  In this day and age I doubt many do.

Published months in advance do not allow one to break the rules. So if I publish my operating schedule on 14.313 months in advance and fire up, this
is ok?  I think not.

Mike W0MU

On 6/3/2014 9:47 AM, Edwin Karl wrote:

How about don't blame the victim ... !

I didn't know even the exalted bulletins were special
and above the rules we all live with (?)

Ed K0KL

On 6/3/2014 10:20 AM, Dick Kriss wrote:

Gary AL9A.

The W1AW Bulletin station has been doing that for years. The error was on the part of the W1AW/0 (MO) operator for setting up and calling CQ on
the published W1AW broadcast frequency.

It would be interesting to see a poll taken of the amateur community on the need for ARRL W1AW broadcast station. Broadcasting was good when it was created but may no longer be useful or used. Maintaining a club station for member use has value; however, I would rather see the operational cost
of broadcasting channeled into more useful projects, like LoTW.

Dick AA5VU

On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Gary AL9A <al9a@mtaonline.net> wrote:

In no way is this "amusing". It is a portent of of what awaits us all
should RM-11708 be enacted as is.

Dick, I think you should send a copy of your email to ARRL and ask why they interfered with one of their own W1AW portable stations? Also ask
what are they going to do to insure this doesn't happen again to any
unfortunate soul who happens to be operating on "their" frequency when its
time to transmit a ARRL bulletin?

73,
Gary AL9A

-----Original Message----- From: David Tanks via RTTY
Sent: June 02, 2014 2:35 PM
To: Dick Kriss ; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY


This is amusing. The ARRL is touting RM 11708 as being helpful, while
at the same time QRMing an on-going operation on a frequency without
checking to see if it is busy! The ARRL does not have a right to a
frequency if it is occupied already. They are supposed to move to prevent
QRM, correct?


73, David AD4TJ



________________________________
From: Dick Kriss <aa5vu@att.net>
To: RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 6:29 PM
Subject: [RTTY] QRM to W1AW/0 (MO) RTTY


I was trying to work W1AW/0 (MO) on RTTY at 18.100 and W1AW home
bulletin station came on like a PACTOR robot and wiped out any chance of
working the W1AW/O Centennial station.

Future W1AW/P RTTY operations should avoid W1AW broadcast frequencies.

Dick AA5VU




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