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Re: [RTTY] RM-11708

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] RM-11708
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 06:28:59 -0700
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Hello,
Could we change the message subject to something like "Argument about
W1AW", so I can build a filter to remove them all as they arrive
please?...  This has zero to do with RM-11708, which the subject
suggests.

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On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 21:50 -0600, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> Failing to listen prior to using a frequency constitutes willful 
> interference.
> 
> When they fire up 6 or more transmitters each and everyday at various 
> times without ever listening most people would draw the conclusion that 
> they are trouncing on someone.
> 
> I can site two that were just recently.  W1AW firing up on top of W1AW/X 
> and another instance where the code practice wiped out a dx station and 
> pileup.  I have had a number of other people tell me that they have had 
> to leave a frequency because W1AW fired up on top of them.  Shall we 
> post on QRZ, Eham and some other major websites and watch the replies 
> come in?
> 
> You seem like a smart guy Mike.  Why are you trying to cover for the 
> ARRL and their bad behavior.  The rules say to listen first and not use 
> a frequency already in use.  Period.  How many times does the ARRL 
> trounce on other users.   I have not clue.  I am not set up to listen on 
> 6 bands from multiple locations across the map.  There is an entity that 
> can do this.
> 
> I would prefer to see the ARRL and board change their ways, fix the 
> problems or the technology and act like good citizens on the bands.  
> Instead they act like they own their published frequencies and use a 
> rule that allows them to pay someone as an excuse to cause willful 
> interference.  If you want to go down the path of embarrassing the ARRL 
> with FCC intervention,  I am certain that there are plenty of people 
> willing to help you to that goal.
> 
> Mike W0MU
> 
> On 6/9/2014 7:32 PM, Mike Tessmer wrote:
> > from [W0MU Mike Fatchett]
> >
> >> The ARRL and W1AW have been willfully interfering with just users of 
> >> spectrum for years.
> >> That is something to be proud of. So much for courtesy. It is expected by 
> >> the ARRL/W1AW
> >> but never given.
> >> The ARRL does not care about deliberate interference.  They do it on a 
> >> daily basis with
> >> the bulletins and code practice sessions...
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Please cite specific examples of this deliberate interference - more than 
> > one, please,
> > since you have stated that this has been going on daily, for years.  Please 
> > include the parties
> > affected, the dates, times, frequencies, etc.  I'm not naïve - I'm sure 
> > someone, somewhere,
> > at some time has had a QSO interrupted by the regular bulletin 
> > transmissions.  But "deliberate"
> > implies intent.  Can you prove that that W1AW was intent on interrupting an 
> > ongoing QSO?
> >
> > I still have no idea what W1AW bulletin transmissions have to do with 
> > RM-11708.
> >
> >
> > 73, Mike K9NW
> >
> >
> >   
> >
> >
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