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Subject: [TRLog] Serial #, Pathological behavior in a network
From: Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com (Violette, Daniel R)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:07:00 -0800
We had it happen once too.  We did not read the new rules soon enough to see
the unlimited band change rule for Multi-Single, so we used a beat on wall
signal and only did it for 1 hour on 40M run and 80M S&P (I am too young to
have an octupus laying around).  Well, I had remembered people suggesting
that serial numbers be 'reserved' because this can happen and I was watching
out for it on the very few Q's we made in the second radio.  Here is how it
went:

station a=cq radio, b=s&p radio (need to look at log to get all the specific
details)

A:  CQ on 40M
B:  Finding a new one on 80M
A: gets called by N6BF (something like that)
A: give N6BF exchange with #518 (I seem to remember)
B: beats on wall and calls K7RAT (that I remember)
A: type in exchange from N6BF and pause while....
B: gives K7RAT #518 in exchange by hitting enter
A: hits enter to QSL and number is now #519 but gave #518

We stopped trying this.  Only looking for mults on second station.  With one
op this would be tough to do, doing 2 exchanges at a time.

Dan KI6X (@K6NX)
> ----------
> From:         George Fremin III[SMTP:geoiii@kkn.net]
> Reply To:     geoiii@kkn.net
> Sent:         Monday, November 08, 1999 9:13 AM
> To:   dawley@execpc.com
> Cc:   trlog@contesting.com
> Subject:      Re: [TRLog] Serial #, Pathological behavior in a network
> 
> 
> Scott Dawley writes:
> > 
> > 
> > I was playing around last night after the contest
> > to simulate two radios in the SS, each radio
> > pausing when/if the other is finishing a QSO.
> > 
> > What I found is that EVEN IF you keep only one
> > transmitter on the air at a time, you can get
> > both radios to send the SAME SERIAL # to two
> > different stations. This occurs if one station
> > is in the middle of a QSO (say, copying the
> > exchange) and the other station is sending
> > an exchange.
> > 
> 
> Maybe you should explain the steps you used to 
> cause this to happen.  I do not know anyway to do this.
> 
> I watched N5KO make 322 2nd radio QSOs this past weekend
> and I dont think he was able to make the program do what
> you describe.
> 
> > The obvious one is to not jump back and forth between
> > radios mid-QSO, but that makes for less efficient
> > use of time.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> 
> How are you making two radio QSOs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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