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Re: [TenTec] LEGAL LIMIT PLUS AMP ALPHA 77D

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] LEGAL LIMIT PLUS AMP ALPHA 77D
From: James Duffer <dufferjames@hotmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:19:14 -0500
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Here Hear!  You've noticed that too.

> From: RMcGraw@Blomand.net
> To: ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net; tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:47:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] LEGAL LIMIT PLUS AMP ALPHA 77D
> 
> First let me make it clear that I am not one that participates in nor enjoys 
> contests of any kind.  Now with that said, I'll proceed to admonish the 
> contest bunch as a whole.  And as Ken said, their operating practice is 
> "probably not a good operating practice".  Oh boy, is that ever true.
> 
> In reading various responses from those that are apparently contesters, I 
> find one thing that seems to be common thread.  They expect to be able to 
> transmit 100% of the time.  Now that says they never or rarely listen. 
> Should not ones transmit time about equal the receive time?  Seems 
> reasonable to me.  Otherwise a condition producing something like 50% duty 
> cycle?  Oh we've gotten into the automatic CQ systems that are far from 
> productive.  Basically turning operators into a bunch of "alligators" 
> otherwise known as large mouth, small brains.   This basically defines why 
> the bands are full of QRM and crap during contests.  Everyone wants to call 
> all the time and listen a lesser amount of time.  I believe it is skill and 
> not power that wins contests.
> 
> I've had three Titans in the shop for various reasons and repairs.  Most 
> faults have been found to exist due to mis-use or operation by the owner 
> which turned out to be failure to properly connect and operate for QSK.  One 
> due to lightning damage.  I don't find them to be "light weight" in terms of 
> performance or duty cycle for amateur radio service.  A 50% duty cycle, 10 
> min on and 10 min off, for 100% duty cycle modes such as RTTY.
> 
> Of course if you believe that one needs a 100% duty cycle, legal limit amp, 
> then pay the price.  And too if one should add 3 dB of gain to the antenna 
> then one benefits both on transmit and receive.
> 
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Brown" <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] LEGAL LIMIT PLUS AMP ALPHA 77D
> 
> 
> >I don't know which Titan K4TAX is referring to, since there have been at
> > least three incarnations of the Titan, with a few versions of each,
> > having minor changes as the design evolved. (At least that is the case
> > with the 425 Titan)
> >
> > I have a Titan 425. It is a real nice amplifier. QSK is great when
> > operated with Ten-Tec rigs using T-T keying loop. I would not call the
> > Titan 425 a full power contest duty amplifier. You cannot run it at 1500
> > watts output in near continuous duty, such as in RTTY mode. Even in CW
> > mode it is pushing it to operate at full legal output for extended
> > periods of CQing. (probably not good operating practice anyway)
> >
> > My Titan 425 is the biggest amplifier I have, and I would like to have a
> > bigger one for contest service. Not to exceed the legal power output
> > limit, but rather to have just a bit more high duty cycle full power
> > capability. I don't regret buying my Titan 425 and it is not for sale. I
> > think it is a great amplifier. You'd probably like one too. Still, for
> > contesting it could be just a bit more stout.
> >
> > DE N6KB
> >
> > Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
> >> The Tentec Titan is hard to beat.  A real proven workhorse.  Two control
> >> lines between the Orion and the Titan plus one coax cable and you are 
> >> full
> >> QSK at legal limit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Looking for feedback on the various top shelf legal limit amps. Would 
> >>> like
> >>> to find a Alpha 77 in good working order, but am interested in other
> >>> possibilities. Commander 2500 magnum, Alpha 8100, Acom 2000 etc. I have
> >>> heard  that the
> >>> Svetlana 4cx800 tubes are getting hard to get, what are your thoughts?
> >>> What
> >>> is the contesters amp of choice?  Will be using  it with my Orion  .Any
> >>> info
> >>> greatly appreciated. Please reply direct to _W1DXH@AOL.COM_
> >>> (mailto:W1DXH@AOL.COM)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73'S TNX,
> >>> STEVE   W1DXH
> >>>
> >>>
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