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Re: [TenTec] Lone voice in the wind

To: <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lone voice in the wind
From: "pfizenmayer" <pfizenmayer@qwest.net>
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:25:47 -0700
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Carl and others - I have never encontered a condition with both rx on same freq, not to say it could not happen if both were general coverage . But I think it has to do with mathematical resolution limits in the two synthesizers . They are "phase locked" in that both start from the same TCXO but the schemes are different. For instance you can set the sub on VFOB and use 1 hz steps but the error is something like 5.333 or 5.667 hz so you still cannot get both RX on same freq. You can go into the RS232 commands but those are also limited to 1 hz steps.

I have toyed with building an external LO for either the main or the the sub RX so they could at least be on the same freq but would not be truly phase locked - I suspect you could get them close enough for many uses.

There is another factor that is not too important in many applications but are in some applications and that is that the delay through the main is substantially different than the delay through the sub rx. Put an external keyed signal into the input - both rx on same antenna input and look at recovered audio on a two channel scope .

Carl - can you get deep enough into the guts to do sub hz steps ????

I agree about what was said about true diversity - I begin to sense the improvement even using the sub on 1 hz steps and getting close. I really wish TT would quit saying the O is capable of "diversity" reception - but guess its how you define "diversity". Everything I have heard about the K3 says they truly have it - and I assume the two delays are the same , dunno.

73 Hank K7HP


My N4PY Orion software has can be operated in diversity mode.  And my
program has an adjustment in it to allow for a slight frequency offset in
the 2 receivers and correct it.


That sounds interesting. Can you explain how it works? I thought the
reason the two receivers are always off frequency by some small amount
is that they use different PLL schemes, with different minimum
resolution step sizes. How can software change that? Perhaps I've got it
all wrong.

Even with different step sizes, at some frequencies the two receivers
might be on exactly the same frequency. Maybe the N4PY software can be
operated so that only these particular frequencies can be tuned?


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