Re: [TenTec] Electric safety

["DAVID HELLER" <dtx@verizon.net>]

Ron, you weren't at the Doylestown trial.  It turned into a circus at the 
expense of Danhurst.  Ask WR for the message I sent to him only.
Penn Wireless still going strong - very few there you'd remember. Mainly Ben 
Johns K3JQH and me. TX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety


> I think this is what you're looking for:
>
> http://www.antennazoning.com/attachments/61_Afflerbach_v_McManus_PA_CCR.pdf
>
> I grew up right next to Fairless Hills in Levittown and knew Dave Heller
> since we were members of the same radio club, the Penn Wireless Assn!
>
>            Ron  N6IE
>       www.N6IE.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
>
>
> > Out of idle curiosity, I forwarded Dave's comment about the case "right
> > close to home" to my lawyer, Mike K3AIR, to see why there'd be a problem
> > with a precedent.  Mike had the following to say:
> >
> > "If it's the case I'm thinking of, it is a Common Pleas court decision
> > from
> > one of the eastern PA counties.  It essentially said that the CC&Rs could
> > not be used to prohibit amateur antennas because of the public service
> > hams
> > do (the ham involved was a MARS operator who ran lots of phone patches
> > from
> > overseas military personnel).
> >
> > The problem is that Common Pleas cases have no precedential value outside
> > the county they're decided in and can't be relied on (even though I have
> > gotten away with it on some other issues by arguing that even though they
> > are not precedent, they are persuasive)."
> >
> > And don't worry, I am compensating Mike for his time.  It looks like
> > tomorrow evening will be a good time to light the grill up... while he's
> > also helping me work some DX on the Corsair during the contest this
> > weekend!
> >
> > 73, ron w3wn
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of DAVID HELLER
> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:31 AM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
> >
> > I really enjoyed that part.  Of course my fee was a bit higher for days
> > spent in court (very enjoyable!) and I like to dictate the questions to
> > the
> > opposing lawyer for his cross - and most would fall for it.  The best
> > invariably was a cross question  not quite related to the case at hand
> > which
> >
> > was so easy to answer: "Sorry, that's out of my expertise and I'm not
> > qualified to answer."  And the judge breaking in telling him to stop
> > wasting
> >
> > time and keep it relevant.  What's nicer than having his honor on your
> > side!
> >
> > The best I ever had was actually right close to home on an amateur radio
> > antenna/zoning case (no charge of course) with K3DSF vs U.S.Steel.  Two 
> > of
> > us were :Pete's expert witnesses, myself and K3BNS, now W3BE, who
> > subsequently became FCC's head of  personal (Amateur and CB) in DC, and
> > until recently QCWA president. Story is fairly long - maybe another time
> > here.  But the case - l963 +/- is well known to ARRL, and I don't know 
> > why
> > it hasn't set a precedent for the covenant restriction crap.  But I'm no
> > lawyer, so what do I know.    Dave, K3TX
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
> >
> >
> > > DAVID HELLER wrote:
> > >
> > > >  The real fun came from the cases where some lawyer thought he could
> > > >  show me up on cross-examination.  Not once did the lawyer win.
> > > Been there, done that!
> > >
> > > I was the forensic expert for a large telcom and spent my share of time
> > > in court...and no, not once did the opposing lawyer win. They all mostly
> > > seem to have forgotten the lawyer's Golden Rule of never asking a
> > > question to which they don't know the answer.   :-)
> > >
> > > Carter  K8VT
> > >
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