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Re: [TenTec] The Eagle inflation costs, etc.

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle inflation costs, etc.
From: "Kris Merschrod" <Kris@merschrod.net>
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:08:55 -0400
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Gary raises the question.  The Cosair $1940 in 1988 and inflates to $3580 in 
present dollars.

BUT, Joe provides the answer.  Instead of "controlling for technology" (or 
gzimos) which is like comparing apples to pears from the same orchard, we 
need to control of a constant of some sort.  Joe provides to clue in his "I 
design and sell 25-100k$ tube audio gear for crazy rich people ."  The 
satisfaction index,  No offense, but some of our non-ham friends think that 
we are "crazy" when internet had replaced us..; rich?  Well, that is a 
relative.  But, gettiong to the point, at the time that the decision was 
made to buy the Trition, Delta, Corsair, etc. we all had a reached the 
decision poit because ti would satisfy our desires.  Sort of like the 
saturation point of a component and we flip to positive from neutral.

So, if we flip for the Eagle at less than $2k today, then we are getting a 
better deal for satisfaction and excitement (plus grief from the XYL for 
bringing in another "box").

Judging from the excitement here, I'd say that Tentec is doing a great job. 
:>)

73,

Kris

Merschrod
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
www.merschrod.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CSM(r) Gary Huber" <glhuber@msn.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle inflation costs, etc.


I just pulled the sales slip for my Corsair II,  263 ext. VFO,  282 and 288
filter, 705 mic, and 961 PS purchased on 10-21-88.

(still on the desk as the back-up rig and psk-31 radio)

The total price then was $1940.00 ........ what would that be in 2010
dollars?

73,

Gary - AB9M

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From: "John Molenda" <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:36 PM
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle inflation costs, etc.

>  Well said Art !     John kb2huk
>
> On 9/27/2010 1:57 PM, Art Trampler wrote:
>> One needs to remember that the surge in American prosprity, post WW2, was
>> largly because with the possible exception of Argentina, the US had the
>> only sizable industrial/manufacturing infratstructure left in the world.
>> Bombs took care of the rest.Peron took care of Argentina.
>>
>> So for 25 years the only place one could turn for halfway decent to good
>> consumder goods was the US; and for another 15 years, the only place to
>> go for decent capital goods was the US.
>>
>> Under that system wages and benefits grew considerably as there was
>> little (price) elasticity of demand for US made products, as substitutes
>> were largely unavailable.
>>
>> This is no longer the case and said change, coupled with comparative
>> advantages in labor and tax rates (and in many countries regulatory
>> costs), makes the US goods relatively mroe expensive worldwide, even
>> without an artificially devalued yuan. Of course productivity benefits
>> used to offset the wage differential, but that gap is closing too.
>>
>> I think we need to recall the state of the world's industrial base post
>> WW2 to understand the arc that we are on.
>>
>> Art, KØRO
>>
>> PS: I'd happily own an Orion II and maybe an Eagle (let's hope it does
>> not turn out to be a screaming chicken). There aren't many rigs for which
>> I'd give up my Omni VI.
>>
>> PPS: Good thing this is not another reflector concerned more with
>> vertically oriented implements of steel and aluminium; we'd have been
>> warned to find a more suitable venue by now!
>>
>> --- On Mon, 9/27/10, Kris Merschrod<Kris@merschrod.net>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Kris Merschrod<Kris@merschrod.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle inflation costs, etc.
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"<tentec@contesting.com>
>> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 12:48 PM
>>
>>
>> I, too have been drawn into the QSO here.  If you use the US currancy
>> inflater at :
>>
>> http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
>>
>> Then at $700 in 1978  the Titon would be $2,343 today.  So T-T is running
>> at
>> the inflation rate.  Unfortunately, the competition started off way below
>> our wage rates and is still way below - hence the low cost of imported
>> radios.
>>
>> Our blind faith in free-market ideology has kept us from looking around
>> to
>> see what is happening (or what was happening to other countries when we
>> had
>> the comparative advantage).  Balanced trade would have been a better
>> strategy, but, heck, when you are sitting at the card table and the chips
>> are flowing your way, who would want to change the game?
>>
>> I wonder why the house keeps giving us more chips to play with when it is
>> obvious that our luck has run out?  Actually, the answer to that question
>> is
>> in a great book called "1421"  It is about the Chinese navagation
>> advances,
>> but also about their trading policies way back then.
>>
>> We are playing checkers and they are playing Go.
>>
>> Moral of the story?  Buy Tentec!
>>
>> Kris KM2KM
>>
>>
>> Merschrod
>> 123 Warren Road
>> Ithaca, NY 14850
>> www.merschrod.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pumbaa"<pinkertontommrs@bellsouth.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"<tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>>
>>
>>> A lot of people did not have their income increase some 285% from 1978
>>> to
>>> today.  That is the problem as companies can't sell as many ham radio
>>> sets
>>> as they do large LCD TV sets. HTs now seem very cheap especially a
>>> certain
>>> brand made in China. If your income has equaled the inflation rate then
>>> today's radios are probably cheaper than those of 1978,
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "mike bryce"<prosolar@sssnet.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"<tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Eagle
>>>
>>>
>>> This has been an interesting thread. It got me out of the shadows.
>>>
>>> I haven't looked it up but in 1978 the triton was someplace around $700
>>> stripped with no noise blanker or cw filters, analog version.
>>>
>>> today that's about over two grand.
>>> <Clip>
>>>
>>> Mike, WB8VGE
>>> SunLight Energy Systems
>>> The Heathkit Shop
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>>> J e e p
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