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Re: [TenTec] KPA 500

To: <Rsoifer@aol.com>, <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] KPA 500
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Reply-to: Ron Castro <ronc@sonic.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:30:47 -0800
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Tubes are still a good way to go for high power, but it's true that there isn't 
much profit in the ham amplifier market.   The price and durability of solid 
state devices will improve and make them more viable in the future, just as has 
happened in the broadcast industry.  Just a few years ago, SS amps for FM 
broadcast didn't make financial sense over 3 kW, but now they do for power 
levels up to the 20-40 kW level.  AM broadcasters went SS a long time ago and I 
don't think there are any vacuum tube units being sold in the 50 kW or lower 
levels.  The same will happen for HF ham radio...it will just take time.

            Ron  N6IE
       www.N6IE.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rsoifer@aol.com 
  To: tentec@contesting.com ; ronc@sonic.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [TenTec] KPA 500


  Hi George,

  Yes, my experience with solid state amps is also that they can't take abuse 
as well as a tube amp can.  Tube amps are also better value for money.  For 
those who really need no-tune bandswitching, there's always Alpha.

  My Orion II may not be perfect, but nothing is.  I feel no need to trade it 
for a K3, but am not currently into DXpeditioning.

  73 Ray W2RS


  In a message dated 2/24/2011 12:06:52 A.M. GMT Standard Time, 
georgefritkin@yahoo.com writes:
    There is just no money to be made in amps.  A lot of Hams are linear 
abusers. 
    Tubes, for the most part can take the abuse, transistor can not, hence lots 
of 
    protection.  Then we Hams complain that our solid state amps "kick out all 
the 
    time" so you can not win.  Either you go the Ameritron way (I have lots of 
their 
    amps) or the THP direction and just let the selling price follow suit.  You 
are 
    correct, differentiating amps is much harder than a transceiver.

    George, W6GF



    ________________________________
    From: Ron Castro <ronc@sonic.net>
    To: ac5aa@ac5aa.com; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
    Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 7:54:39 AM
    Subject: Re: [TenTec] KPA 500

    TT would have to come up with something to differentiate itself from 
    Elecraft.  At this point, the route would be to offer full legal limit 
    solid-state amplifiers.  Elecraft went down that road with the KPA800 and 
    KPA1500, but never brought them to market.  I saw the prototypes of both 
    units (the pictures are still on my website) but instead, they pursued the 
    K-3 development and let the higher power amps wither on the vine.  The K-3 
    has been so popular that they are focused on accessories with a matching 
    footprint like the 500 Watt amp and the pan adapter.

    I'd love to see TT with something equivalent to the Dishtronix amp!

                Ron N6IE
          www.N6IE.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Duane Calvin" <ac5aa1@gmail.com>
    To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:01 AM
    Subject: Re: [TenTec] KPA 500


    > That depends on whether TT could significantly beat Elecraft's cost/price
    > window.
    >
    > 73, Duane
    >
    >
    > Duane Calvin, AC5AA
    > Austin, Texas
    > www.ac5aa.com
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
    > On Behalf Of Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP
    > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:43 AM
    > To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
    > Subject: Re: [TenTec] KPA 500
    >
    > It was on display in Orlando.
    > Eric said "they" were done with it an just awaiting approval.
    > He thought it would be a couple of months.
    >
    > I must admit, with the KPA 500 practically already available, the niche 
    > for
    > Ten-Tec to build a small amp has practically vanished.
    >
    > 73
    > Rick
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
    > On Behalf Of JoshL
    > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 7:42 PM
    > To: tentec@contesting.com
    > Subject: [TenTec] KPA 500
    >
    > When does the KPA 500 become AVAILABLE ???
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