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Subject: Re: [TenTec] eagle
From: george fritkin <georgefritkin@yahoo.com>
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT)
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So let me ask this, if your radio put out 110 watts, should you send Ten-Tec a 
check for another 10% for the added power.
 
George, W6GF  
 
 


--- On Fri, 4/1/11, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson <geraldj@weather.net> wrote:


From: Dr. Gerald N. Johnson <geraldj@weather.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] eagle
To: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:33 AM


In the 50s cars left Detroit with speedometers that read 10 mph fast at 
60. It was intentional, the makers considered it a safety factor.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

On 4/1/2011 11:21 AM, mike bryce wrote:
> Lee,
>
> you're absolutely right!
>
> but...
>
> I still paid for a 100 watt radio. I shouldn't have to tweak and peak the 
> trimmers inside to set the power correctly.
>
> The omni VI I own shows about 80 watts give or take a few. And I KNOW that no 
> one alive will know the difference.
>
> But...
>
> It should not have left the factory like that.
>
> I talked to Paul at the dayton hamvention about this issue and he told me 
> that in the case of the Omni VI, each radio has to 'learn' what
> the power output is. While all the staff was overwhelmed with people from the 
> hamvention, he was unable to give me more details other than "send it down"
>
> And...
>
> It's like buying a new automobile and finding out that the speedometer is 
> off, it's just a quick adjustment, but you still paid $28,000 for the car—it 
> shouldn't have left the factory like that.
>
>
> mike
>
>
> Mike, WB8VGE
> SunLight Energy Systems
> The Heathkit Shop
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> J e e p
> o|||||||o
> "If you can't explain it simply then you don't understand it well enough"
> Albert Einstein
>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:04 AM, wa3fiy@radioadv.com wrote:
>
>> 'Couple things,
>>
>> The difference between 88 watts and 100 watts is about 0.55 db which is 
>> slightly less than
>> 0.1 S unit (using 6db per S unit).   Can anyone hear that difference under 
>> anything other than
>> lab conditions?   Can anyone hear 0.55 db difference under any conditions?  
>> Probably not.
>>
>> BUT you say...."I bought a 100 watt transceiver and I want a 100 watt 
>> transceiver!"   OK, no
>> biggie.   First of all, get a lab standard power meter and dummy load and 
>> set everything up.
>> Then adjust the two pots (it's two pots in most of the later TT rigs. Not 
>> sure about the Eagle
>> though) in the radio to calibrate the radio power and alc such that you get 
>> exactly 100 watts.
>> Not hard.   I've never seen a 100 watt TT radio that would not deliver at 
>> least 120 watts or so
>> if you coaxed it.  The radio can do it but why do it?
>>
>> In fact, I generally calibrate my radios so 100 watts indicated is well 
>> under 100 watts, 80 to 90
>> typically.   I rarely ever operate over 50 watts.  Why?   Because that's all 
>> I normally need and
>> every thing runs cooler and cleaner.  If I need more, I fire up the 
>> amplifier and get about 500+
>> watts with 50 watts drive.
>>
>> We're not buying a lab instrument...we're buying a radio.  In the case of 
>> the Eagle (and most
>> other radios I imagine), they do quite well at that task.
>>
>> To each his own.  But you can have it spot on if you so choose.
>>
>>
>> -Lee-
>> WA3FIY
>>
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