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From: "ROD" <w3krq@dejazzd.com>
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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 15:12:45 -0400
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no power output indicator update is coming from TenTec for the Eagle. I was told it can not be done. so go buy a swr power output meter.

-----Original Message----- From: d.e.warnick@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] eagle



The speedometer in my Rav 4 is off by 2 MPH. The outside temp is off by 2 deg F.

No, I haven't taken it back and complained, even though last winter when it was 1 deg outside, I had a 400% error



Dave

WA3F


----- Original Message ----- From: "mike bryce" <prosolar@sssnet.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2011 1:21:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] eagle

Lee,

you're absolutely right!

but...

I still paid for a 100 watt radio. I shouldn't have to tweak and peak the trimmers inside to set the power correctly.

The omni VI I own shows about 80 watts give or take a few. And I KNOW that no one alive will know the difference.

But...

It should not have left the factory like that.

I talked to Paul at the dayton hamvention about this issue and he told me that in the case of the Omni VI, each radio has to 'learn' what the power output is. While all the staff was overwhelmed with people from the hamvention, he was unable to give me more details other than "send it down"

And...

It's like buying a new automobile and finding out that the speedometer is off, it's just a quick adjustment, but you still paid $28,000 for the car—it shouldn't have left the factory like that.


mike


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On Apr 1, 2011, at 11:04 AM, wa3fiy@radioadv.com wrote:

'Couple things,

The difference between 88 watts and 100 watts is about 0.55 db which is slightly less than 0.1 S unit (using 6db per S unit). Can anyone hear that difference under anything other than lab conditions? Can anyone hear 0.55 db difference under any conditions? Probably not.

BUT you say...."I bought a 100 watt transceiver and I want a 100 watt transceiver!" OK, no biggie. First of all, get a lab standard power meter and dummy load and set everything up. Then adjust the two pots (it's two pots in most of the later TT rigs. Not sure about the Eagle though) in the radio to calibrate the radio power and alc such that you get exactly 100 watts. Not hard. I've never seen a 100 watt TT radio that would not deliver at least 120 watts or so
if you coaxed it.  The radio can do it but why do it?

In fact, I generally calibrate my radios so 100 watts indicated is well under 100 watts, 80 to 90 typically. I rarely ever operate over 50 watts. Why? Because that's all I normally need and every thing runs cooler and cleaner. If I need more, I fire up the amplifier and get about 500+
watts with 50 watts drive.

We're not buying a lab instrument...we're buying a radio. In the case of the Eagle (and most
other radios I imagine), they do quite well at that task.

To each his own.  But you can have it spot on if you so choose.


-Lee-
WA3FIY

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