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Re: [TenTec] SLIGHTLY OT

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] SLIGHTLY OT
From: Nathan Moreschi <n4ydu@yahoo.com>
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:18:06 -0400
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Mike,

That will make a super multi-band antenna in terms of loss...Just not below 80M.

73,

Nate/N4YDU

On 4/8/2011 4:56 PM, Mike Bryce wrote:
Okay...

So what I just read from the link you sent, if I take and put up a center fed 
Zepp with 66 feet on each side, fed with 450 open line and assume no loss from 
the tuner or balun that antenna won't make a even halfway decent multiband 
antenna?


Mike

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On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Steve Hunt<steve@karinya.net>  wrote:

Mike,

Yes, it's a very popular "Ham Myth" - not helped by various articles in QST.

TLW is the software supplied by ARRL with the Antenna Book. It
calculates the losses and impedance transformations for various types of
feedline, given the load impedance. It typically underestimates losses,
and I would normally use the VK1OD on-line calculator in preference to
it, but that doesn't include a model for 600 Ohm line whereas TLW does.

Here are the calculated losses for various types of line - all 110ft
long and at 1.9MHz - when terminated in 11-j930 Ohms:

TLW, ARRL "generic" 600 Ohm line: 2.6dB
VK1OD, Wireman 551 ladderline : 6dB
VK1OD, Wireman 551 ladderline (wet): 8.2dB

Remember this is all at 160m !!!!

If you'd like to know more, take a look at this review of the QST
article "The Lure of Ladder Line":
http://vk1od.net/transmissionline/LOLL/

73,
Steve G3TXQ



On 08/04/2011 20:58, Mike Bryce wrote:
Don't shoot me!

But I always read that open line feed was lossless.

Mike


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On Apr 8, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Steve Hunt<steve@karinya.net>   wrote:

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