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Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology
From: k6jek <k6jek@comcast.net>
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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 00:30:35 -0800
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They don't complain. They just advise. BTW, Jon, you're 50 Hz high or whatever. 
 When we aren't doing a round table but just jumping in, I know it's annoying 
to be pushing the RIT whenever party X transmits. And how about when X is 50 up 
and Y is 50 down?  

In addition to using the latest greatest stuff, I like to see just how good I 
can get the old stuff to work without inappropriate modifications. The 100V 
didn't start out sounding better than anything else on the air. I had to 
wrestle it into submission. 

Being actually on frequency is part of getting high performance out of old 
gear. How can you argue that? 

Jon

PS: I would venture that my buddies aren't the simpletons you seem to think 
they are.

On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:

> Jon,
> 
> If I had buddies who got annoyed with me being 20 or 30 Hz off frequency,
> I'd look for some new buddies.
> Those are probably the same buddies that pray to their SWR bridge.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of k6jek
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:02 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology
> 
> I know. As an aficionado of vintage equipment I agree in spirt. But on SSB
> it really is delightful to talk with people who are actually on frequency, a
> rarity with vintage gear but the norm now with new equipment. People just
> sound so much more human when their speech isn't shifted 30 Hz or 20 or even
> 10. 
> 
> I have a Corsair (I) and have not considered replacing the PTO with a DDS
> unit but might just find a way to get a better read of my actual frequency.
> Shouldn't be hard. That way I can talk with my buddies on their Flex Radios
> (*), ICOM 7600's and such without annoying them while still enjoying my fine
> old stuff.
> 
> Jon, K6JEK
> 
> * I have all that modern stuff too, an SDR, OMNI VII etc. I just don't like
> it much. Heck, I think my favorites are the tube pieces from '50's.
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> 
>> I remember when digital frequency readouts (the kind using an electronic
> counter, not the kind on a R-390) started appearing on ham gear. Most people
> (myself included) just had to have it. We never needed it before. There were
> easy enough reliable methods to make sure we stayed inside our band (or
> sub-band) limits, but for some reason it seemed like a digital display of
> our frequency became a necessity.
>> 
>> DE N6KB
>> 
>> On 2/22/2014 11:14 AM, Mike Bryce wrote:
>>> I guess it was a year ago I put in a DDS replacement for the PTO. Rock
> solid. Dual VFOs, speed sensitive tuning, all kinds of goodies.
>>> 
>>> I took it out and the analog PTO back in.
>>> 
>>> Yep, it didn't have the same feel. It (the DDS) made all kinds of noise
> when no antenna was connected.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes, and this was one of them, older really is better
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike, WB8VGE
>>> SunLight Energy Systems
>>> The Heathkit Shop
>>> http://www.theheathkitshop.com/
>>> J e e p
>>> o|||||||o
>>> 
>>> A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is
> never sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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