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Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporter

To: 'Don Moman VE6JY' <ve6jy.1@gmail.com>, "'TOWERTALK@contesting. com'" <TOWERTALK@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporter
From: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:37:12 -0600
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Thanks Don for this information.  Now here is a guy who actually knows
what he is talking about, with lots of experience, knowledge and smarts
about towers.

Doug 


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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a self-supporter

Delhi made two styles of self supporting tower  - the original necked
"coke
bottle" design and the more recent uniform tapered sections.  Both can
be
extended with straight sections to significant heights and must be
guyed.
But the Delhi is not an exact copy of the Rohn BX.  They certainly are
similar but the most obvious difference is that Rohn BX has the X
bracing
significantly closer together - almost touching - and is therefore
sturdier.  The earlier necked Delhi's are much more closely related to
the
Rohn/Spaulding  AX series of towers.
Any self supporting tower can be guyed and it will withstand higher
winds.
The upwind guy(s) will reduce the compression in the down wind leg(s)
and
keep them more closely equal.   If the failure mechanism is torque
twisting
the tower to the point of failure, then a simple 3 way guy may not add
much
to this scenario.  Star guying would.

Many statements that come from manufacturers are driven by the legal
department and are purely there to thwart legal action.  Do not confuse
them
with sound technical advice.

Don
VE6JY


On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:18 PM, <K7LXC@aol.com> wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/3/2008 12:45:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>
> >  This subject has been debated before.  Your analysis of
self-supporting
> towers and guying is another example of  misinformation!  Let me
suggest
> you obtain the facts next time you  post or other wise state that it
is
> your opinion.  The company that  manufactures the self-supporting
towers
> I use, RECOMMENDS guying ...  fact!
>
>    Okay, I'll bite. Who is the manufacturer -  Trylon? Delhi? How
about a
> reference? I've never seen a US tower manufacturer  say to guy a
> self-supporting
> tower so maybe it's a Canadian thing. And I have  seen guyed Delhi
towers.
> (Delhi towers are exact copies of the Rohn BX line  that includes
straight
> sections so you can wind up with a beefy  self-supporting/guyed
tower.)
>
> Cheers,
> Steve     K7LXC
> TOWER TECH


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