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Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage Layout Problem

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage Layout Problem
From: "Earl Morse" <kz8e@wt.net>
Reply-to: kz8e@wt.net
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 07:56:51 -0700
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Yep, what Jim said.

http://www.w4rp.com/ref/coax.html

RG174 would even be usable on 160m, not great but useable.  The beverages I 
built for XA5T were fed with a couple 100 feet of RG58.  We only had to listen 
to the US so a NE and NW antenna were used.  They worked great on 160M and 80M 
and we even used them on the higher bands to help split out the pileups since 
our beams were not rotatable.  Switching from NW to NE made the W7s go away and 
the W1s pop right up.

I would just bite the bullet on the extra coax and run it through your access 
patch panel and not worry about the loss.  You could always run two runs and 
swap the cables and see if you can tell the difference as an experiment but I 
am doubting it would be noticeable.

Earl
N8SS   

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 18:09:17 -0400
From: Jim Miller <jtmiller47@gmail.com>
To: rfman45 <rfman45@hotmail.com>
Cc: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beverage Layout Problem
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Beverage loss on any reasonable rg6 is near zero on low bands. 

73

Jim ab3cv

On May 12, 2014, at 1:50 PM, rfman45 <rfman45@hotmail.com> wrote:

I have a question concerning feedline runs which I'd like to present to 
the group.

I have four beverages with the feeds on one side (front) of my property 
and my tower and other
transmitting antennas on the other (back) side of my property with the 
house in the middle. The coax
runs and control lines from the transmitting antennas come into the 
house in the back where the utility
lines come in and everything is tied together there to the utilities' 
ground, etc.

The problem is that if I bring the beverage feeds around to the back 
where the transmitting coax, etc. 
come in and bring them in there it will greatly increase the beverage 
feed runs (probably by 150-200ft)
with the resultant increase in loss, etc. I would prefer if I could 
bring in the beverage coax runs in via the 
front of the house (close to the shack) but then, of course, they are 
far from the utility/SPG ground. I do
have a run of grounded #2 tied to the utility ground running around most 
of the house including the front.

Is there any good way of bringing the beverages in through the front or 
should I just accept the longer runs
and bring them through the back with everything else?

Thank you in advance for any comments!

                                                                 Mike  
W2LO
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