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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] poll cont...
From: Radioman <radioman@frpd.org>
Reply-to: radioman@frpd.org
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:54:40 -0500
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Its amazing what some people would do for wood and paper on the walls..
i guess, learning and with trials, making your station better, is
long gone along with the gentlemen ham...

i have lots of respect for rovers, its a tough job, iv seen the movies 
and the
PIC's, they take a chance on getting arrested and charged with all kinds of
stupid home land security  (guilty until proven other wise) laws
 
But  i out right refuse to work the captive rovers or big guns 
sponsoring captive rovers...
after contesting for a few years you get to know who is doing what, so thats
my fix, and its catching on, i see many more stations doing the same 
thing here
on the east coast, quietly lowering their contacts and ignoring them

and YES, there are allot of stations they could have worked but don't,
many rovers work large groups all the way up the bands, and yet ive
hrd a rover with many stations calling him work only one special station
then leave,  missing all the others with new grids...

i know i was selected for the poll, and after seeing some of the poll 
questions
i bailed just because of these never ending threads that start fights 
and 100 meg
of band with

Tony



frank bechdoldt wrote:

>Jim wrote
>
>Are you saying they lied and there really were lots of stations they could
>have worked but didn't?
>
>  
>
>>This web page shows where they have worked in a group , the poll shows the
>>complaints. Its a good opperation if they would work other people.
>>    
>>
>
>You don't know what you are talking about, they do work other people
>Jim
>
>Are you caling the ARRL a liar when theyy said this group worked each other 
>for 98% of thier qsos.
>
>What other contest on earth can you work toyr 2 team members for 98 percent 
>of tout points?
>So if I wen tto the north pole on a subamarine and did the big 360 grid 
>circlle with my other navy buddy with wilson fm handhelds would I be 
>honnored as the best in vhf contesting? After all its not my fault you cant 
>hear me. To take all that equipment to a part of the country where very few 
>hams live within 100's of miles and to work each other for 98% of thier own 
>score is self serving and does the rest of us no good. It is the simple 
>purchase of a plauqe for a wall by a guy who is on the ARRL committee 
>itself.
>
>Here is a group of circlers web page
>http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/rover.htm
>
>look at the ja 2005 results they all have the same multipliers.
>look at the rigs they all have the same antennas because all the gear is 
>owned by one enity.
>
>Look at the guy's wall and you will see his motivation.
>http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/woverbeck/contests.htm
>
>What other contest can I own and control 3 stations and co-ordinate them to 
>win?
>
>This should be a contest by itself or at least a different catagory.
>
>What harm would that do?
>
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