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Re: [VHFcontesting] [amsat-bb] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award

To: Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>, VHF Reflector <VHF@w6yx.stanford.edu>, AMSAT-BB@amsat.org, "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [amsat-bb] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
From: K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 17:42:59 +0000
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC
contacts already in LOTW
to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?

Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs are
NOT allowed,
and that means NO Satellites!

I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non Terrestrial
contacts to a Terrestrial award!

If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,
disrespecting everyone who in the
past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The
fact it was hard made the goal
worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds No
Water. If you want something
bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.

I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs and
encourage others to do as well.

73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk

Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!




On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> My proposal would allow “Satellite VUCC” to count towards 5BVUCC. The idea
> is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming
> changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
>
> So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than 12
> hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who supports
> this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know about
> the idea—and that you’d like to see it implemented.
>
> In the Southeast Section, we’re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as our
> representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need to get
> him on the satellites more though!
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct contacts?
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB
> > <amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Les,
> >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I would
> >> certainly work towards that end.
> >> Dave
> >> N9HF
> >> el99
> >>
> >> "Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
> vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
> >>>
> >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from anyone on
> >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
> lost in
> >>> cyberspace.
> >>>
> >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM, I’d
> like
> >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that would
> >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
> >>>
> >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
> more of
> >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
> >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
> >>>
> >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on the
> >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222, 1296,
> and
> >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale of
> more
> >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
> advances
> >>> the state of the radio art.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
> could
> >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always, grateful
> for
> >>> your service to the hobby.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >>> 121 Mayfair Park
> >>> Maylene, AL 35114
> >>> EM63nf
> >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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