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Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital and VHF contests

To: Rick R <rick1ds@hotmail.com>, "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Digital and VHF contests
From: Jarred Jackson <Jarred.Jackson@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:41:26 +0000
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In WNY, I observed casual contesters who stayed “on the air” much longer than 
they would have otherwise. Knowing where to go to find activity seemed to be 
exactly what they needed to stay engaged. Then again I also listened to a 10 
minute pileup on 146.55 FM.



If I was a contest sponsor, my primary indicator of success or failure is the 
number of people who participate. If its going up, I stay the course and make 
no changes. If going down for a few years, I better do something.  Based on 
that metric, nothing seems to be needed right now. For those of us who have 
been part of a large organization, have you ever tried to argue against the 
metrics!? (better luck buying a lottery ticket). Now argue you have found a 
better indicator that is a predictor of success, rather than a reflection of 
past performance and people will listen.



Again, if I was the contest sponsor, I would look at the numbers and say that 
VHF+ contesting is in a recovery period and doing very well. Stay the course.



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From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Rick R 
<rick1ds@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 10:43:57 AM
To: vhf contesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Digital and VHF contests

I’m resending this to a wider readership. Having been the author of the June 
VHF contest results for QST for several years (prior to FT8) I had all of the 
entrants scores. In a nutshell, 90% of those log submissions were “low” scoring 
casual contesters. My read is that most were out to join in the fun, give out 
points to the big guns and multis, say hi to another VHFer and to perhaps get 
some new grids. They operated for a few hours when the bands were busy—and the 
detailed Packrat log reviews done by WA3RLT showed the first few contest hours, 
Sat eve and Sunday eve as peak times, at least for the Mid-Atlantic and 
northeast. Now it is far more difficult for that casual op to find the 
concentrated activity except on the FT8 frequency. And moving up the bands 
based on a completed FT8 contact is problematic. More recently I have been 
writing up the QST EME contest results and there are similar issues regarding 
digital vs CW, especially for contests. The introduction of JT65 has been a 
great boon to EME activity, yet there is still substantial CW activity.  I 
don’t have any solutions to returning to the activity of the past, but here are 
some thoughts.
There have been EME contest activities sponsored by EU groups (ARI) that were 
digital only or CW/SSB only. The ARRL EME contest separates results of those 
who use CW/SSB only from those who use digital only or digital plus CW/SSB. 
Many have suggested that CW and/or SSB QSOs be given a higher point value than 
digital contacts. Others have proposed credit for multiple QSOs on the same 
band with the same station for 2 or 3 modes. Others thought there should be 
separate contests for digital and other modes.
Hopefully the ARRL radiosport staff will evaluate what is happening and get an 
adhoc committee to discuss and make recommendations regarding VHF contests. We 
have been given fantastic tools with digital programs. We need to be able to 
utilize them and yet maintain a balance that keeps some of the personality of 
the stations and operators on the air that makes it easy and fun for the casual 
VHF contesters who are the real majority of those on the air for the contest 
weekends who help feed the logs and scores of the big guns. Rick K1DS

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