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Re: [WriteLog] M2 mult station setup

To: Hal Kennedy <halken@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] M2 mult station setup
From: "Dean St. Hill" <dmsthill@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:22:37 -0400
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Indeed. Of course these stations really can get quite complicated and even
if the original idea was to simply have two transmitters on during the
contest so you might have more fun than say MS it has morphed into very
complex systems. I personally think it is difficult for a software engineer
to figure out a station's strategy - but simply to support the category in
its basic form which is two transmitters running the whole contest period
with each QSO indicating which of the transmitters was used.

To me beyond that is for the station engineer to make sure they conform to
the rules and to ultimately endure that the log by whatever means available
conforms to the cabrillo standard - again from where I sit based on how I
interpret the rules by indicating which transmitter made the QSO I believe
they expect the log to indicate either the QSO was made with Station 1 or
with Station 2 - even if both stations consisted of 2 transceivers but not
having done any M2 with more than 2 transceivers I could be wrong there.

4O3A has been pushing the boundaries - along with others I'm sure, but his
information is available online -
http://www.4o3a.com/index.php/support/automation-diagrams/

Interesting stuff.

Dean - 8P2K






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On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Hal Kennedy <halken@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ah so.   Looks like the ARRL and CQ rules differ.... Thanks for the
> correction!
> Hal
> N4GG
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Dean St. Hill <dmsthill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hal
>
> If you read the current CQWW Rules section IX General Rules no.7 says
> quite clearly -
>
> "Only one signal on a band is allowed at any time. When two or more
> transmitters are present on the same band, a hardware device MUST be used
> to prevent more than one signal at any one time. Alternating CQs on two or
> more frequencies on a band is not permitted"
>
> Originally many of the typical stations would have had a single
> transmitter per band BUT in the last several years the strategies have
> evolved to the point where I almost expect someone to come up with a device
> that manages the words per transmited signal to allow two signals to
> interleave on a single band - some kind of quasi TDMA switch.
>
> So anyway the rules are quite clear.
>
> 73 - Dean 8P6SH/9P2K in the 'tests
>
>
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> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:13 PM, halken <halken@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> It's helpful to be really clear on the rules. The rules do not say
>> anything about interlocks.  The ARRL rules for M/2 say "no more than two
>> signals transmitted simultaneously."  You can accomplish that with
>> hardware, software or hand signals between the ops.  Interlocks, per se,
>> are not required.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> N4GG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/2016 1:54 PM, Dean St. Hill wrote:
>>
>>> I am not by any means an expert on this as I only do SO2R and have done
>>> just one M2 in the early days before much of the current strategy was
>>> formulated with multiple rigs per station.
>>>
>>> I believe the rules require you to have a hardware lockout. In my case my
>>> SO2R controller ensures that the two transmitters are never on air at the
>>> same time.
>>>
>>> With regard to M2 and the other MS and even MM the evolving strategies
>>> may
>>> make it difficult for software solutions. When I add a third rig I know
>>> WriteLog will support it BUT I will have to ensure that it is not on air
>>> with any other transmitters etc. I couldn't expect WriteLog to mirror my
>>> strategy of using 3 or 4 rigs.
>>>
>>> So I do think that the issues of rig lockouts should be addressed in
>>> hardware because the rules require that.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> H
>>>
>>> Regards Dean 8P2K
>>>
>>>
>>> Dean St. Hill
>>>
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>>> On Jun 16, 2016 2:16 AM, "Kostas SV1DPI" <sv1dpi@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 15/6/2016 5:16 μμ, Stein-Roar Brobakken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Possible add 1-2 Support/Mult station
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the point is to define what station you have and you can
>>>> change it. For example I have run1 as nr1 in the radio column and run2
>>>> as
>>>> nr2. If I could define the rest of the stations to be either nr1 or nr2
>>>> and
>>>> not nr3, nr4, etc. plus to have the interlock works *only *with the same
>>>> number station, should be ok for M2.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Kostas SV1DPI
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