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Re: [TowerTalk] Mosley Antenna Question

To: "Richard Solomon" <dickw1ksz@gmail.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mosley Antenna Question
From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@mediacombb.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:49:03 -0600
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Dick--
You should read the Courtney post again; He was NOT the only DXer in the area. In fact, he described an "A-B-C" comparison.
Bill--W4BSG

-----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:05 AM

From: Richard Solomon
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mosley Antenna Question

Your premise might be valid if you were the only DX'er
in the area, but when you have the competition that we
had on the East Coast, then my statements, while not
based on true scientific data, still are valid.

The truth is in the pudding ...

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Courtney Judd <k4wi@k4wi.net> wrote:

I just have to put my 2 cents here on this subject! Back in the 70's my
friend and neighbor Don ... then WA4BCY, now K4UE... and I... then K4JYO,
now K4WI.. were busy chasing DX for new ones for our DXCC total count. Don
and I had identical rigs except for antennas: Drake twins and SB220 amps;
Don had a TH6-dxx @100 ft and I had a Hygain 2 el Quad @ 100 ft. Don and I
usually ran neck and neck on any DX that showed up. A newbie showed up in
the neighbor hood and asked us for advice and he ended up with the same
setup except someone told him that Mosley was the best antenna to have. So
he put up a Mosley tribander at 100 ft. One evening Don and I were chatting
with KC4AA in the Antartic and the newbie broke in and asked if he could
make contact.... Sure, good ahead and call him.... after about 10 attempts
by him the KC4 asked if the caller was using a wet noodle for an antenna as
he could not hear a peep from the WB4. I guess that made him feel so bad
that he sold all his ham stuff and went back to 11 meters. I felt sorry for
him but he was given good advice and didn't follow it. Most everyone knew
that if you were serious about increasing your DXCC totals, Mosley was not
the way to go! I worked my first 300 countries with that 2 el quad but
eventually switched to Yaesu FT-1000D and KLM "Big Sticks" monobanders and
ended up with my total of 355. So this is real world experience with the
Mosley/others; I always liked going up against any dude with a Mosley
antenna in a DX pileup... made life easier for me! My 2 cents for sure lol
73's Cort K4WI

 ve4xt@mymts.net <mailto:ve4xt@mymts.net>
Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:54 PM
The point many Mosley supporters don't seem to understand is that from
the results of one antenna, you cannot derive any knowledge about whether
it is outperforming another yagi of comparable cost or dimensions.

A person who puts up a TH7 and uses it exclusively for ten years can
proclaim he was happy with the performance, but has no basis for
proclaiming it would have outperformed, say, a Skyhawk, JK Tribander, X7 or
even a Pro57.

Someone who took down a TA 33 and replaced it with an A4s and notices an
improvement DOES have a basis for regretting buying the TA33, however.

An engineer and a tower expert who create a scientific plan for comparing
antennas and execute that plan do have a basis for saying that one brand of
antennas was inferior to competing, comparable models, as well.

The plural of anecdote is not data. Only by sound comparison can one say
for certain that spending $1,500 with Mosley is better than spending $1,500
with DX Engineering or Hy-Gain or JK.

73, Kelly
ve4xt


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