Gary, your tape wrapping procedure obviously gave adequate protection. My
perspective of the discussion has been more focused on not expecting
various connectors to be self sealing against water intrusion because they are
not.
No doubt that your double wrap method would work well on any connector
type. But, it has to be present to work!
73,
Gerald K5GW
In a message dated 9/7/2016 1:10:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rxdesign@ssvecnet.com writes:
Forgive me - I've replied to Gerald's email but this is directed to the
thread in general: WHY all the concern for sealed connectors and connector
types? I've been using UHF for 49 years and the only time I've had issues
with those installed outside it was my fault - either poor wrap of tape or
poor solder job ... I've had cables with connectors that were out for
years
with electrical tape wrapped around them in 2 directions - years later
when
disassembling them for a move they were utterly pristine! I don't get it -
why so much discussion?
Gary
K9RX
-----Original Message-----
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:56 AM
To: john@kk9a.com ; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male DIN
John, you bring up a valid concern. I am not aware of any coaxial type
connector that could be considered waterproof. The fundamental reason is
because the threaded connections do not create a hermetic seal when they
are
screwed together.
There are inevitable air spaces inside the connectors and coaxial cables.
These air spaces will fill with air. When the air is heated (like outside
in full sun) it will expand, creating a positive pressure. Conversely,
when
the air cools (like at night), it will create a negative pressure. This
negative pressure will suck tiny amounts of water vapor through the
threads
of
the connector.
If enough water vapor is present droplets of water can condense during the
cooling cycle and over the course of days and weeks can collect inside the
connector. Once inside, there is no escape and the droplets continue to
collect over time.
If there are rain or dew drops of water on the outside of the cable, they
can also leak through the threads and collect inside the connector. Gravity
is not your friend here.
Many commercial applications pressurize all of the cables even if they are
foam filled types to prevent the problem. You may have noticed many of the
Heliax type connectors have air fittings; that is why.
73,
Gerald K5GW
Over
In a message dated 9/7/2016 5:37:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
john@kk9a.com writes:
Is any TX connector really water proof? Are DIN's being professionally
installed with no external butyl rubber and tape? On the two outdoor DINs
that I have, I weather proofed the connection the same way I did with UHF
and N connectors.
John KK9A
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR600 male DIN
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 01:08:48 -0400
Take care!
According to the Amphenol page N-Type are not water proof/weather proof.
73
Roger (K8RI)
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