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Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp on Coax connectors

To: W3YY <w3yy@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp on Coax connectors
From: Glenn Pritchard <gpritchard7000@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:31:18 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Being in an ocean environment with marine installations we normally solder
the center pin, just because. With the crimped center pin I have seen
failures over the years.
Even with the crimp there is a small hole for soldering which I do. Some of
the off shore LMR400/600 connectors are beyond atrocious, with crimp
sleeves that don't conform to spec, center pins that fracture etc.
We have done away with clamp connectors for obvious reasons.
Salt air has an inherent ability to corrode everything, even in a wheel
house an IC-736 which should not have been in there that was pretty much
done.
With the exception of our mountain installations, at times we don't solder
the center pins.

Glenn, VA7UO

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM W3YY <w3yy@cox.net> wrote:

> Tony -
>
> That's exactly my question for those who insist on using PL-259 crimp
> connectors that require soldering the center conductor.
>
> Crimping the center conductor takes about 30 seconds and I've used crimp
> connectors that allow crimping of the center conductor for years without
> problems.  I can't even find my soldering iron in 30 seconds, HI!  I can
> even replace a coax connector on the top of my 120ft tower, even in the
> wind, without running a 300 foot of extension cord or digging out my
> propane
> fired soldering iron.
>
> I'm guessing that "solder the center-pin folks" have just always done it
> that way and just feel comfortable doing it that way.  That's fine, but I
> think practically none of these people have tried crimp connectors with the
> ability to crimp the center conductor.
>
> This is one of those controversies, like "is a quad better than a Yagi",
> that will never be resolved.
>
> Personally, I'm glad not to have to find my soldering iron every time to do
> what is a simple process with the center conductor.
>
> 73, Bob - W3YY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> tony.kaz--- via TowerTalk
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 10:43 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp on Coax connectors
>
> A few years back I switched over from soldered to crimped PL-259 connectors
> whenever I need to replace or make up a new cable. The connectors I buy are
> for crimping both the shield and center conductor. Why would I want to also
> solder the center conductor after crimping? What does that buy me? Doesn't
> that defeat the reason for buying crimp connectors - ease of installation?
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Chuck
> Gooden
> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:40 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp on Coax connectors
>
> According to the specification the center pin is soldered, so DO NOT
> Attempt
> to crimp the center pin.
>
> Purchase some proper coax prep tools it will make the easier and more
> consistant.
>
> DX Engineering  sells the prep tools, crimpers, and connectors. Be sure to
> use Amphenol connectors with the correct part number for the cable your
> using.
>
>
> Chuck K9LC
>
>
> On 9/5/2019 10:23 PM, Wayne Kline wrote:
> > I 3rd the option of Crimped shield. Soldered center conductor .
> >
> >
> >
> > Works for me
> >
> >
> >
> > Wayne W3EA
> >
> >
> >
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> > ________________________________
> > From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Jim
> > Rhodes <jim@rhodesend.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 11:14:32 PM
> > To: Bert <balmemo@sympatico.ca>
> > Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Crimp on Coax connectors
> >
> > I always put a little flux on the center conductor before I crimp it,
> > then solder.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 10:08 PM Bert <balmemo@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> I always solder the pin, regardless!
> >>
> >> Bert VE3NR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/5/2019 10:22 PM, Jon Pearl - W4ABC wrote:
> >>> Hi Bob,
> >>>
> >>> Every site that I've visited dealing with this product shows them to
> >>> be crimp/solder connectors...
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amphenolrf.com/182102.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jon Pearl - W4ABC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/5/2019 12:07 PM, W3YY wrote:
> >>>> Julio -
> >>>>
> >>>> I use the DX Engineering Ultra-Grip 2 Crimp Connector Tool Kit, the
> >>>> DX Engineering RG-213 cable, and Amphenol 182102 no solder crimp
> >>>> connectors (both shield and pin are crimped - no soldering
> >>>> required).  This combination has provided beautiful results for me
> >>>> without any problems.  I will never go back to PL-259's that
> >>>> require solder.
> >>>>
> >>>> Amphenol UHF crimp connectors from DX Engineering are reasonably
> >>>> priced but can usually be found at slightly lower cost from the
> >>>> major electronic parts suppliers.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73, Bob - W3YY
> >>>>
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