My goal is not to operate 48 hours in a contest, its to keep 6 stations
running for 48 hours in a contest! You can visit my web site and determine
for yourself how serious I am about contesting... right now I have to keep
it short because I have 2 guests here manning the station for 2 different
contests just about to get started.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Neiger [mailto:n6tj@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 07:09
> To: K1TTT; CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] N6TJ AXIOMS OF LIFE
>
> I will comment about your last paragraph David, since obviously you've
> never
> ran a contest pile-up from the DX end, when often hundreds are all calling
> on the same frequency. But then your statement:
> "ONLY if you DON'T have the skill to know how to deal with it". I've been
> contesting 50 something years now, but there's never one where I don't
> learn
> something new. So please, go out somewhere rare, and show us all how to
> do
> it.
>
> It's not that I don't send my call frequently enough; some operators
> better
> than I, say I send it too often. But growing-up when KH6IJ was my idol,
> I
> signed on to Nose's manner of just sending my call at the end of the QSO,
> which when you're in a 4 per minute rhythm (cw of course), the skilled
> operators calling simply know it means 3 things: (1) I QSL your exchange
> and call; (2) I am XXX; and (3) QRZ. It's simply musical poetry.
>
> No, David, that is not the problem. It's those like you, and others,
> promoting packet, skimmers, nets, lists, etc. that have destroyed the
> ability of many (most?) to copy. I send ZD8Z. Your students post ZD9ZZ.
> Or 2D8Z. or ZD8MI.
>
> You opine that I should "just work the dupes that don't listen and get
> them
> out of the way". I do this 99% of the time. But often to the
> considerable
> detriment to my score. Like in the 1997 CQ WW CW from ZD8Z. I did
> single
> band 15, and became the first to ever do 5000+ QSO's on a band. It's
> still
> the world record. But, because of your wonderful technology operators,
> who
> busted my call in some of the above ways, I ended up with an outrageous 7%
> DUPE rate. Help me out with the math, please, David: 7% of 5000 = 350
> QSO's lost by DUPES. Which is equivalent to wasting about 3 hours of the
> contest. As you don't appear to be a serious contester, I can understand
> why you don't care about wasting 3 hours. But for those of us with a goal
> to operate 48 straight, can you understand why we might not be too pleased
> that the generation you are fostering can't even copy code?
>
> And I cannot let your last words of learned advice pass without a note:
> You
> said " while adding a comment about what your real call is again" Ever
> try
> that, on cw, when you've got 500 stations constantly calling you, and
> every
> dit you send starts a new fever of calling? Ever try to inform a DUPE, on
> CW, that he is just that, when (1) he has no clue as to what your call
> is,
> and (2) obviously doesn't believe he's DUPE'd you. And further to that,
> most likely his top speed has maxed out somewhere around 15wpm. Again,
> please go out somewhere this fall, and show us all how to do it. I'm
> always
> willing to learn.
>
> It's late, and now every time I read the word DUPE, it's increasingly
> looking like I wrote DOPE. No insult intended, but I think I better quit
> here.
>
> Vy 73
>
> Jim Neiger N6TJ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:13 AM
> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] N6TJ AXIOMS OF LIFE
>
> >> NO. 548 Packet spotting, skimmers and that ilk, corrupts and
> perverts
> >> any
> >> attempt to demonstrate operating skills, absolutely.
> >
> > Only if you consider packet spotting not a part of operating. By now we
> > are
> > all aware that packet spotting exists, it has existed for many years,
> and
> > it
> > will continue to be a part of contest operating for the foreseeable
> > future... so learn how to handle it and make it a part of your skill
> set.
> >
> >> They're happy, and I'm left with a DUPE. Wonderful. My only solution
> >> then
> >> is to QSY. Then watch the DUPES disappear (for awhile, at least)
> >
> > ONLY if you DON'T have the skill to know how to deal with it... ID more
> > often, call a couple CQ's with your call 2 or 3 times, and just work the
> > dupes that don't listen and get them out of the way... while adding a
> > comment about what your real call is again.
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >
> >
> >
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