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Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
From: Douglas Shock <douglas.shock@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:27:32 -0700
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Well it depends on how you define superb ssb but for me the k3 is leaps beyond in both recieve and tx. Your milage could vary though.

Sent from my iPhone 3gs

On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:58 PM, kc9cdt@aol.com wrote:


It is my understanding that the K3 is a superb CW rig...but not even in the same ballpark as OII for SSB???
Am I missinformed?
73,
Lee, KC9CDT




-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Shock <douglas.shock@gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2



that is correct...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Philip C. Anderson
xtraham58@hotmail.com>wrote:

Not that it matters to me, but it is my understanding that ON4UN is now
using 2 loaded K'3s.

From: marsh@ka5m.net
To: tentec@contesting.com; douglas.shock@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:10:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Douglas,

What is your source of information for your following statement?

"If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
of
the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec?"

What did they bail to?

The National Contest Journal July/August 2009 Volume 37 Number 4 contains
an
extensive article on "Choosing an HF Radio for Serious Contesting and
DXing". Of the four (4) transceivers the author picks, the Ten-Tec ORION
II
is one of them.

I'm not convinced that I've ever missed a DX or contest QSO that I could
have worked if I had been using something better than my ORION II.

73,
Marsh, KA5M


-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:
tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Douglas Shock
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:02 AM
To: Scott Harwood; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Whiners? Do you really feel that was required Scott? So your level of
expectation on a delivered product is different than others. I personally find no fault in OI-OII owners holding TenTec's feet to the fire on the
marketing campaign they used for both radios. that hardly makes me a
whiner.
If it was such a great and finished product then why did most if not all
of
the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators bail on TenTec? Maybe they knew
something you don't?

Sure, in its base form it is a fair radio. But face the facts man...you really believe they got the firmware right? And to release a beta with enhancements that in themselves are broke but no fixes and then are never heard from again? Sounds like the joke is on the operator if you support
this business practice.

So drive on if you still drink the TenTec coolaid or just find it
necessary
to defend your spent monies. But respect the rights of others homie...

Hiding behind your keyboard with big mouth and no accountability is not a
good thing.



On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Scott Harwood
<scotthsr@earthlink.net>wrote:

I couldn't have said it better, Dennis.

Good job. I hope enough "whiners" read it.

Palstar does have great stuff. I have two tuners. They could improve on
answering emails, though.

Scott K4VWK

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>
Sent: Nov 11, 2009 8:37 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Hmmm, some of you need to cut back on the coffee...

The O2 is a fine radio, well positioned in the upper reaches of ham
radio
transceivers...
The biggest whine I see is that they are not producing enough firmware
changes to make you happy..
It appears that some believe the K3 radio with its rapid parade of
firmware revisions is somehow superior because it needs frequent
revising
-
this does not bespeak superior, to me; adaptable maybe, a secondary
hobby
in
it's own right, but not necessarily superior......

Then I read the moaning about the O2 sweep; and they didn't do this,
they
didn't do that, etc...
Last time I checked the ads the K3 does not have a sweep screen... But
somehow, not having a sweep screen makes it the superior radio, because Orion is not upgrading its sweep screen fast enough - the logic of that
escapes me...
If you want a radio with a fancy sweep screen get a Pro III...
If you want an even fancier sweep screen get an LP PAN for your Orion
/
K3...

If you want an even fancier radio get one of the $11K to $13K models
from
the land of the rising sun - but don't expect the factory to answer the phone and put the technician that built and aligned your radio on the
phone
to talk you through a problem - which both Orion and Elecraft do
routinely...

I happen to have the O2... I have looked hard at the K3 with the more
capable sub receiver - as recently as 2 weeks ago... But, the less
desirable ergonomics of the radio outweigh the receiver advantage and I opted to stay with the Orion for the third year... The O2 has the best combination of receiver and ergonomics I have found in 45 years of ham
radio...

Lastly, I am thrilled to have Ten Tec and Elecraft slugging it out in
the
ham radio arena... A vast improvement over the import radios that have
dominated the ham business for some time..
And while I am mentioning US companies, let me point out that PALSTAR
acquired the Commander amplifiers and has put considerable time,
innovation,
and money, into improving those amps until they appear to me, to be the
best
amps in the business... They now have a complete line of tuners, meters
and
high quality amps... You could do a lot worse than spend your ham
dollars
with them - and drive that amp with a new O2 or K3...

denny / k8do



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