This clearly shows the need for more self responsibility and the need for
far fewer lawyers.
If you are at all concerned about climbing a tower or doing the work
proposed DON'T! Walk away.
Tower work is difficult and very trying at times and at times down right
TT has been a great resource to me and so many of my projects. Let us all
hope it continues.
To the guy who was talking about issues with harnesses and passing out. I
would rather be passed out in my harness then dead on the ground after
falling out of a belt. I have used both a belt and harness and the harness
is far superior IMHO. If you don't like a harness so be it. You don't see
rock climbers in simple belts anymore. There is a reason.
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of K7LXC@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:51 AM
To: email@example.com; firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Old Safety Belt
In a message dated 2/3/2009 9:02:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> "OTOH I wrote tower climbing columns in both the NCJ and the
CQ Contest magazine for a total of over 10 years. I'm hoping to reprint
all of them in an upcoming book."
> Wow. At a minimum, I would ensure that a disclaimer is
in each and every column highlighted in red, bolded, blocked, and
Well, that's one way to look at it. Those columns (and this very
reflector) have never had any sort of disclaimer so it apparently wasn't
(Lawyers out there feel free to chime in.)
> The last thing you want is someone to use "how to" information in
to their detriment. While you may have an adequate defense, being haled
into court is the last thing anyone needs, even if you're certain you don't
owe a duty.
What's "owe a duty"?
What about any other advice column in newspapers, on the web, on radio
and tv, etc.? They don't have disclaimers. I think we're pretty much adults
here and can assume responsibility for our actions.
OTOH where would we be without TowerTalk? Many of us would still be doing
uninformed and potentially dangerous tower work and installations and that
WOULD be to our detriment. The reason I started TT years ago was to help
keep people out of trouble and I think it's done a good job of that.
> Generally, instructional services like ComTrain won't release
information without enrollment.
That's because they have a financial interest in their training,
curriculum and certification. You can go to the OSHA website and get all
the rules and techniques you want for free as well as lots of other places
on the internet. BTW ComTrain sells a bunch of books relevant to tower
climbing that you CAN buy.
> Proper technique up on a tower needs more than just a review in a
You mean someone shouldn't be writing about it and then you shouldn't read
it? That makes no sense at all.
I agree that we live in a litigious society and also that we should all do
our homework before embarking on any sort of journey or project. Which
that basically we have to read about it.
BTW in my upcoming DIY tower book, per my attorney's advice there is
sentence in the forward regarding the disclaimer about tower climbing being
a dangerous activity. It doesn't have to be in bold on every page.
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