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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 19:17:20 -0500
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I have no idea how any manual internet spots are of any value whatsoever on 
CW.  If you call CQ you are instantly spotted by every skimmer in the world who 
detects your signal.  You are essentially “self spotting” if you call CQ.  

How much perceived benefit is imagined for any number of internet spots, real 
or otherwise as compared to maybe 10,000 real spots created by the simple task 
of pressing F1 throughout a contest?

Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's report of spoofed 
> spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all seemingly traced to a single 
> IP in Italy.  After the first time this happened, a month earlier (CQWWSSB), 
> we were assured that the committee had it in hand, with reliable reps in 
> Italy pursuing the answer.  Since then, nothing.
> 
> How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of thing with 
> impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce the appropriate rule 
> against self-spotting.
> 
> To refresh memories:
> 
> ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
> 
> 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
> 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
> Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
> Includes
> 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
> 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
> 
> These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP 217.61.58.23.
> These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster nodes.  There could
> be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that doesn't include
> IP addresses.
> 
> https://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/SelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip
> http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/27-Nov-2021.zip
> http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/28-Nov-2021.zip
> 
> Lee VE7CC"
> 
> -- 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
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