Jim wrote:
"Your assertion is absurd and once again you are incorrect. They made a
deliberate decision to go to a place that much study had revealed would make
it possible to visit the greatest number of grids during the contest period.
Nobody is under any obligation to operate from a high population density
area."
Factual information as cut and paste from the ARRL.
The Arrl's rules state:
1. Object: To work as many amateur stations in as many different 2 degrees X
1 degree grid squares as possible using authorized frequencies above 50 MHz.
Foreign stations work W/VE amateurs only.
VHF General rule
2.3.5.All Rovers are encouraged to adopt operating practices that allow as
many stations as possible to contact them.
QST mentioned this group in thier article by calling thier methods
contriversial in a contest article. Are you calling me a liar on this? Do I
need to dig up the link? IF the Arrl calls it contriversial why are you
upset about the discussion? Its healthy. Then again why dont the arrl fix
it. I suppose it politics.
Im not saying its cheating, thier decision to activate 10 ghz where no one
else could work them is purely self serving. Please tell me working
yourselves 98 percenmt of the time isnt self serving.
Just like steroids were not illeagle in baseball in 1980, the use of this
technique made it a requirement to change the rules.
What you are telling me is that I have to adopt thier practices which
appears to be against the spirit of the contest in purpose and in rule
laungage to compete. If the same was followed in baseball they would all be
legally on steroids and the entire game would be artificial.
Artificial like 98 percent.....
Im not hell bent on them in particular, jim mentioned them first, but they
sure set the biggest example by self generating 98 percent of thier score
working themselves. They have built one hell of hf station and theres no
complaint there. However one owner is fielding three teams working the
system together to win the world series here in the vhf world.
Why does 10 percent of the rovers need to define what the other 90 percent
does? I feel that gives all of a bad name to the home stations who dont
follow this one. I know because I have been acussed of being captured to
another rover when I was the only rover in the northwest one year. The guy
just thought all rovers did this.
These people do more good for the service in other ways, I just feel this
one is a poor choice.
I also think w2ev is on to something there. Also how about a 20 km min
distance rule beween rovers, not home stations or rover/home stations. This
would be on 1.2 ghz and down. Is that too much of a challenge?
As for n6mu's 354 contacts well if he would of worked 100 different grid
squares that adveraged 2.5 points per qso that would be a 100k score.
However he posted a 500k score. The difference is the 2nd rover station. I
pulled the numbers out of the air, but what would your score be without
someone folowing you? How many 16 grid corners did you do, maybe 2 in 4
hours? IE one could circle thier buddy at DM 04/05/14/15 then could
boogie up to dm 06/07 cm 96/97 and do it again.
Why should your score be higher because you followed one other person around
a spot in the california sunshine? The real chalenge would of been to have
one guy start in redding and the other lin sandiego and work towards each
other. But you broke no rules, we are discussing the future here.
I think its better for us rovers to try to fix this rather than people who
dont do it. A seperate class is a fair comprimise. A becnh mark of 10-15
percent from one sation is likely in order.
or someone has to move 50 km or an hout must of passed before re contacting.
I dont see the humiliation of a pack rover/ grid circling plaque. Are those
bad terms? its what they do.
73s
Frank
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