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Subject: [AMPS] Parasitic suppressors/another question,
From: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:56:09 -0700


>
>>>>?  Tuning the HF tank circuit and disconnecting the hf load have 
>>>>virtually nothing to do with what is happening in the anode-resonant 
>>>>circuit where the parasitic oscillations take place. 
>>>
>>>Ah contrair!  You yourself have said that the anode-resonant circuit is 
>>>composed of Ctune.  Is not Ctune in the tank circuit???  
>>>Sooooooo.......tuning the tank circuit DOES make a difference.  
>>>
>>?  Adjusting C-tune makes little difference in the anode resonance since 
>>C-tune is effectively in series with C-anode, which is much smaller. 
>
>Not necessarily, Rich.  In many, many tubes .......
>
?  What is the anode-resonance when your amplifier is tuned to 10m?   .  
.  to 80m?  
thanks.  

>Additionally, I've always thought that Canode was the capacitance from the 
>anode to ground.  Ctune is also connected to ground.  So I fail to see how 
>Canode and Ctune are in series.
>
?  one end of C-anode connects to C-tune through chassis gnd.   When 
viewed from the ungrounded ends, these two caps are in series and they 
are in parallel with the interconnecting lead inductance.  

>And when Ctune is rotated through its value we aren't trying to change the 
>resonant frequency of the anode.  

?  In practice the resonant frequency typically exhibits little change as 
C-tune is adjusted. 

>What we are doing is rotating a reactive 
>load around the Smith chart.  

?  In cases where a C-tune internal resonance happens to be near the 
anode-resonance (AL-80, SB-1000)  the test may produce an oscillation.  . 
 A better test is to provide  a continuous string of anode current pulses 
that are passing through the anode-resonant circuit and creating a string 
of damped-waves.  
>
>How can you prove to me that a test is useless that so many others 
>including myself have used to find out wether the amp oscillates?  

?  In my opinion, the test is not a fool-proof way of starting an 
oscillation. 

>Please don't minimize the legitimate experience of countless others.
>
>If the value of Ctune makes no difference 

?  Did I say this?.  

>.......
>
>>>...... and the amp was completely stable.  
>>
>>?  'Tis hardly a good idea to tempt fate this close to the ides of April, 
>>Jon.  
>
>Not tempting anything.  If an amp is STABLE it is STABLE.  That is why it 
>is called STABLE.
>
?   Famous last words:   
"The Titanic is unsinkable.".  .  
"This amplifier is perfectly stable."   
"This tower is so strong that it can not be blown down by any windstorm." 
 .  .  

-  cheers



Rich...

R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures  


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