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Re: [Amps] confused reading amidon ferrite specs?

To: "R@contesting.com;Measures" <r@somis.org>
Subject: Re: [Amps] confused reading amidon ferrite specs?
From: Dan Sawyer <dansawyer@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:55:43 -0800
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Should mix 67 support a 1.8 to 55 MHz 1200 watt transformer?

On this topic:
    1. What physical form should be used?
    2. What is a reasonable turns on the 50 Ohm side (to start design).

Dan

R@contesting.com;Measures wrote:

>On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:03 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
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>>On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:56:08 -0800, R@contesting.com;Measures wrote:
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>>>On an oscilloscope, using 100w of RF, I observed that mix #61 begins 
>>>to
>>>distort the waveform at c. 13MHz.  Those who don't desire to generate
>>>harmonics should probably follow the manufacturer's specs and not
>>>operate 61 above 10MHz.
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>>The distortion and losses will depend on many variables, including the
>>power level, the size of the core, and the number of turns.
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>Agreed.  Waveform distortion is the result of of a combination of too 
>many Webers and too much f.
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>>What were your
>>test conditions (core size, turns, etc.)?
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>I don't remember the details, Jim, however, as I recall it was a 2.4" 
>mix-61, mu=125,  core for a 450-ohm 8170 grid terminator R.  Whereas 
>everything looked wonderful on  the 'scope at 1W, at 100W, it did not.  
>After I read Permag Pacific's tech specs on mix-61, it was apparent 
>that the seller didn't.  As a result of seeing the harmonic distortion 
>above 13MHz with 100W, I switched to mix-67 (mu=40, rated by mfg at 
>80MHz max) and observed a clean sinewave at 29MHz.
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>>Jim Brown K9YC
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