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Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks

To: "'Dan Violette'" <danki6x@earthlink.net>,<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:41:25 -0400
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Grid squares change a lot in size depending on latitude.  
> Florida would get the most in this kind of deal.  Dan KI6X 

The difference in size between 25 degrees (Florida Keys) and 
49 degrees (US/Canada boarder) is dwarfed by the amount of 
open water (Gulf of Mexico and/or Atlantic Ocean).  EL99, EL88, 
EL87, EM80 and EM90 are more than half water and EL86 is 90% 
water!

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
  


> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dan Violette
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:27 AM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks
> 
> 
> Grid squares change a lot in size depending on latitude.  
> Florida would get the most in this kind of deal.  Dan KI6X 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
> Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:12 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks
> 
> 
> K8DD writes: 
> 
> > In ARRL contests there is a second option to the circle.
> > According to http://www.arrl.org/contests/cc.html Unlimited 
> and Medium 
> > clubs have the choice of the circle or section.  " All stations and 
> > all operators must reside within the club territory, which 
> is either 
> > defined by a 175-mile (282-kilometer) radius from a 
> designated area or
> > one ARRL section."    Not real hard to understand what that means.
> 
> That still penalizes clubs where a given state is chopped 
> into multiple
> sections (e.g., the Florida Contest Group). 
> 
> The "smart" way to resolve the geographical limits for a club 
> is to use a
> given number of grid squares (6 character).  14 or 15 squares 
> would be about
> the same geographical area as the current
> 175 mile (ARRL) limit and would be significantly easier to 
> administer. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
>    ... Joe, W4TV 
>   
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of hank k8dd
> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:58 PM
> > To: kr2q@optonline.net
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Circle Jerks
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/28/07, kr2q@optonline.net <kr2q@optonline.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Seems to me that the concept of circle is wrong.  What
> > about places along the coast?
> > > What about places along deserts?  What about etc?  Doesn't
> > a circle hurt them?
> > 
> > ----
> > 
> > In ARRL contests there is a second option to the circle.
> > According to http://www.arrl.org/contests/cc.html Unlimited 
> and Medium 
> > clubs have the choice of the circle or section.  " All stations and 
> > all operators must reside within the club territory, which 
> is either 
> > defined by a 175-mile (282-kilometer) radius from a 
> designated area or
> > one ARRL section."    Not real hard to understand what that means.
> > 
> > CQ WPX says "Participation is limited to members operating within a 
> > local geographical area (exception: DXpeditions especially 
> organized 
> > for operation in the contest and manned by members)."  No 
> definition 
> > of "local geographical area", but one could say it is somewhere 
> > between a 300 kilometer circle and a call area.  Or two.  
> Or three in
> > some cases!     Not real easy to understand what that means.
> > 
> > CQ WW says "Participation is limited to members operating within a 
> > local geographic area defined as within a 275 km radius 
> from center of 
> > club area (except for DXpeditions specially organized for 
> operation in 
> > the contest; club contributions of DXpedition scores are 
> percentaged 
> > to the number of club members on the DXpedition).  Not real hard to 
> > understand what that means .....
> > 
> > Change it and make them all the same.  "Participation is limited to 
> > members operating and residing within the club territory  
> (except for 
> > DXpeditions sponsored by the club for the operating event.  
> Scores to 
> > be percentaged to the number of club members operating on the 
> > DXpedition).
> > 
> > Then there is the exchange .....
> > Add a Check .... you know .... THE CHECK ....
> > the year you were first licensed,
> > the year you think you were first licensed, the year you 
> wanted to get 
> > licensed, the year you didn't get licensed, the year you were born, 
> > the year you were married, deflowered, or attended your first 
> > Hamvention(r), Or some two digit number that you got by 
> throwing darts 
> > at the dart board.
> > Etc, etc, etc.
> > 
> > And start it all off with a sync code (5nn or enn) to let 
> you sync to 
> > the speed in your brain to know that the rest of the exchange is 
> > coming at that speed.  Or slower.  Or faster.
> > 
> > 73    Hank/Duck    K8DD
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their
> > level then beat you with experience.'      -anon
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