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Re: [CQ-Contest] Best & worst scenarios - 3830 postings

To: "CQ Contest Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Best & worst scenarios - 3830 postings
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Reply-to: wn3vaw@verizon.net
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:49:14 -0400
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Fair enough.

Eric, it has happened to me in the past.

I'm not a big gun due to my station limitations.  I accept that.  My goals
in ARRL contests is usually the Section in my power category.

There have been times in the past where my 3830 score was surpassed in the
final tally by someone who didn't post the reflector.

So it goes.

It doesn't make me feel "skunked" because I understand and accept that not
everyone chooses to post to the reflector.

You are proposing that the 3830 reflector be used for something other than
it's original purpose, and that it's use be made mandatory.  And for what
end?  So that your sense of instant gratification be soothed?

If a contester competes honestly, follows the rules, and sends his entry in
to the contest sponsor in accordance with the rules, you're just going to
have to wait.  If you want the sponsor to post the results sooner, or
electronically or to the web prior to print publication, take that up with
the contest sponsor.  Don't hijack and repurpose the 3830 reflector.  And
don't pervert the meaning of a voluntary unofficial system by telling
everyone that it's use is de facto.  It's not, and it never was.

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Eric Hall, K9GY
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:46 AM
To: CQ Contest Reflector
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Best & worst scenarios - 3830 postings


Lively discussion for sure!
Here's a best and worst case scenario.

These five people post to 3830 and place #1-5 in their category:
K5ZD, W3WN, N7MAL, KG5U, N4VI

Best case is the results come out and they all stay somewhere in
the top five. Note for CQ WW CW the results came out NINE months
after the contest. I do appreciate the volunteer work done to put
the results together.

Now worse case is five other people posted great scores in the contest.
They decide not to post to 3830 and just send in their score to the
sponsor. The final results come out and the #1-5 spots are now:
N5OT, N2IC, W2SC, WM5R, W5VX

Now that is great they did well, they entered, and all that...

All that I am saying is if you have a top score then you should
post to 3830 so that in this scenario the original five don't
have to wait NINE months to find out they aren't the top five.

How do you think K5ZD, W3WN, N7MAL, KG5U, N4VI feels after seeing
that someone with a top score didn't take the few minutes to post
to 3830? That's the issue...Does waiting NINE months to find out
they've been skunked make them feel good? I don't think so!

Moral of the story is if you are a top score then you should
post to 3830...the defacto unoffical results listing.

CQ CONTEST!
Eric K9GY

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