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Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheerleading

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Cheerleading
From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:47:22 -0800
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After the contest ended, I was curious to see if I was in the RBN data  
base. To my amazement, I was! This in spite of the fact that I was  
purely S&P and never sent CQ during the effort. I don't see this as a  
weakness in the RBN system, but rather a strength. It is pretty cool  
that the various RBN stations recognized me just from my normal S&P  
operations. Seeing the variety of signal strengths at the various  
stations gives me a better feel for my station's characteristics.

On the other hand, it also makes me wonder how useful those spots are  
during the contest. If RBN spotted all the S&P ops in addition to  
those running, then of what use is the information from an operations  
perspective?

Jack B, W6FB


On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:23 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

> I don't think they were bogus spots.  The Skimmers will find you if  
> you
> make one cq and qsy.  People might have left because they were  
> unable to
> run, too much qrm etc.
>
> Why would the assisted and Multi classes ignore the tool the can lead
> them directly to new contacts and mults?
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 11/7/2011 11:51 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> It seemed like the majority of the skimmer/RBN provided callsigns on
>> my bandmap were bogus (i.e., the spotted callsign was not running on
>> that frequency), despite the efforts to clean up those spots.
>>
>> So I suspect that many/most folks will keep skimmer spots turned off
>> because of this, and there IS a reason to care who gets spotted the
>> old fashioned way.
>>
>> Barry N1EU
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:53 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett<w0mu@w0mu.com>   
>> wrote:
>>> Which contest?  Examples?
>>>
>>> In CW who cares.  There are enough skimmers to find nearly anyone
>>> operating on any band.
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
>>> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
>>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2011 7:00 AM, Telegraphy.com wrote:
>>>> I've been watching DX Summit and see many instances where US  
>>>> stations are spotting other US stations
>>>> on a selective basis during Sweepstakes.  This is obviously  
>>>> nothing more than cheerleading and in my
>>>> opinion totally unnecessary and frankly unfair.   What's wrong  
>>>> with those who are doing the spotting are
>>>> they oblivious or just plain stupid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                          Tony Rogozinski
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