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Re: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CHECKLOGS -- another view CQWW-wise
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:15:57 -0700
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Great points.  Can anyone explain to me why checklogs are even allowed 
anymore?  Since uniques are not penalized I don't see how they serve any 
useful purpose at all.

73,
Dave   AB7E




On 11/22/2011 7:37 AM, (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill wrote:
> Interesting thread on CHECKLOGS -- here is another view at least relative to
> CQWW.
>
> Every year when the UBN report comes out I look it over in detail and
> summarize its results and make recommendations to the NK7U team. Over the
> years our focus on accuracy has really helped our score.  In fact in 2010 we
> jumped up one position in the standings because of our better logging
> accuracy and we had the lowest score reduction in the Top 5 US M/2.
>
> Anyway, this year we had a NIL deduction from a CHECKLOG -- or at least I
> assumed it was a CHECKLOG because their full log was not posted and CQWW
> does not post the logs of CHECKLOG stations. So, this leads to following
> thoughts:
>
> * Since a CHECKLOG station is not submitting a log for a score what
> motivation do they have for keeping an accurate log and in this case even
> logging all their QSO's?
> * Since the CHECKLOG is not posted I can't see what might have been going
> on. For instance our NIL occurred near the start of the contest when we were
> running. And having a NIL when you are running should be much more rare than
> when S&Ping -- assuming the other station is logging accurately. Were there
> other QSO's in the checklog from that same period? Maybe the station only
> started logging later in the contest when they thought "Hey maybe we should
> create a log and send it in".
>
> So the points are:
> * Giving a CHECKLOG the same level of authority with respect to its impact
> in the UBN process does not seem correct from a logic standpoint. CHECKLOG's
> motivation for high logging accuracy is naturally lower since they know
> their score will not count.
> * I would recommend that the CQWW team post CHECKLOGS -- I am not sure of
> their rationale for not posting them.
>
> Scott/K7ZO
>
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