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Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes

To: "'XV4Y \(Yan\)'" <xv4y@nature-mekong.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes
From: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Reply-to: wc1m73@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:15:28 -0400
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I'd love to see a rule that the log has to be submitted immediately, but the 
argument has been that some competitive stations don't have access to the 
Internet -- for example, someone doing a Dxpedition to a remote island. Also, 
CQWW still accepts paper logs.

That said, I think we're getting close to a way to enforce the rule against 
editing logs by using broad-spectrum recordings, at least for CW and digital 
contests. If we can get to the point where there are enough recording stations 
around the world, enough redundancy and good enough software to merge it all 
into a giant master log of the contest, then it won't matter when the logs are 
submitted. If QSOs don't match the master log, they won't count and may be 
penalized.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: XV4Y (Yan) [mailto:xv4y@nature-mekong.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 2:47 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Well, that would a radical change, but my opinion is that the whole contest
> should be contained inside the time limit.
> That means for me that every log should be received BEFORE the end of the
> contest period.
> Sending a log by e-mail is a matter of 10 minutes, not 2 days like it was in 
> the
> "paper log" times.
> 
> I know it can be challenging to enforce, particularly for very remote 
> stations,
> but that's what we should go for.
> I would also like the results to be published a few days after the contest, 
> but
> not being definitive, giving time to the organizers to check for penalties or
> disqualifications.
> 
> If you don't agree, please give me examples of competitions where you're
> allowed to show the proofs of your performance several days after the
> competition.
> I see none.
> 
> It make me smile thinking about the time I was student.
> It would have been great if that after the examinations, I was able to take
> the examinations sheets with me at home, telling the teachers "Yeah I need
> a day or two before giving it to you. I will do nothing on it, I swear, 
> that's just
> I'm a sentimental guy and I need time on my own with them.".
> 
> 73,
> Yan.
> ---
> Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y
> http://xv4y.radioclub.asia/
> http://varc.radioclub.asia/
> 
> > Le 24 mai 2015 à 09:45, cq-contest-request@contesting.com a écrit :
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:33:13 -0700
> > From: Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff@gmail.com>
> > To: wc1m73@gmail.com
> > Cc: Dennis McAlpine <dbmcalpine@earthlink.net>,
> >     "cq-contest@contesting.com" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed rule changes
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> >
> > No, I'm sorry. It says "other methods of confirming QSOs" NOT "other
> > methods". Here:
> >
> > 1. I type in everything and hit enter
> > 2. One nanosecond later I notice something is wrong.
> > 3. I do what I need to do to transmit a correction if necessary (not
> > always necessary), to meet the log what you transmit rule.
> > 4. Because I am in a run, and messing with the editing in my logger
> > takes me away from the run, I scribble the correction on a notepad I
> > keep for the purpose.
> > 5. After the contest I edit in all the scribbled corrections.
> >
> > There is nothing in this process that exhibits an "other method of
> > confirming the QSO". 73 jeff wk6i
> 


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