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To: KU7Y <ku7y.cw@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
From: Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 21:06:21 -0400
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So why would a contest encourage participants not to develop new skills and 
techniques? Is there any other sport that says "It's OK if you don't want to 
get better, we will create a category for you. No worries, mate". This is what 
this debate about assisted vs unassisted vs so2r etc is all about.

Rudy N2WQ

Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
autocorrect.


> On Apr 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, KU7Y <ku7y.cw@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rudy,
> 
> From my little experience using SO2R I found that it was a very big help
> just in knowing when to do things like change bands.  And many multipliers
> were found on the 2nd band that I would not have otherwise worked.  And I am
> not a skilled SO2R op.
> 
> From my point of view it's a night and day difference.  If you add in
> panadaptors it's even a greater difference.  If you add in the Assisted
> class it becomes a click and call matter to work multipliers.
> 
> There is nothing wrong with any of that.  But the advantage of the 2nd radio
> is, in my opinion, to great to lump them into the same class.
> 
> And that's without even considering those super operators who can run on 2
> bands in the dueling CQ mode. I have a great deal of respect for anyone who
> can do that!
> 
> OK, back in my hole,
> 
> Ron, KU7Y
> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
> Northern California Contest Club
> Silver Springs, NV
> ku7y@qsl.net
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rudy Bakalov [mailto:r_bakalov@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:15 AM
>> To: KU7Y
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>> 
>> Why would that be?
>> 
>> Rudy N2WQ
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or
> inappropriate
>> autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:54 PM, KU7Y <ku7y.cw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You're not the only one who feels that way Tony,
>>> 
>>> I've said for a long time that SO1R and SO2R should be separate classes.
>>> 
>>> OK, back in my hole,
>>> 
>>> Ron, KU7Y
>>> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
>>> Northern California Contest Club
>>> Silver Springs, NV
>>> ku7y@qsl.net
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
>>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 3:20 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>>>> 
>>>> For my own selfish reasons I would like to see SO1R and SO2R Unassisted
>>>> separate.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
>>> Ed
>>>> Sawyer
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:19 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
>>>> 
>>>> Ditto the KD4D post.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why don't we let the unassisted operators decide whether the concern of
>>>> assisted ops invading our category is worth eliminating it over the
>>> concern?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No reason to merge the 2 categories and then do an overlay.  Just leave
> it
>>>> the way it is and clarify reasonable questions like Braco's question.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, do to great efforts of the organizations and contest
> managers,
>>>> doesn't the ARRL and CQ contests represent something like 75%+ of all
> the
>>>> contest Qs made in a year?  Why exactly should this majority follow the
>>>> "rest of the world" minority?  Just sayin.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>> 
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